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1,282 Responses to Speak Out America

  1. IdahoAnnie says:

    I am one tired geekette………………

  2. IdahoAnnie says:

    If you all think you are getting dizzy with all of this popping in and out, you should be me!

  3. Goober says:

    Wonder who he is going to be able to take down before he is made dead??? I do not blame him for not taking the fall on his own and the fact that his choices are … spend life in prison… or roll over and try to take the uppers down in turn putting your life in jeapordy!

  4. fedupinnyc says:

    Something to Ponder!!

    Why the “Balanced Budget Amendment” is a Hoax – and a Deadly Trap

    How Would the BBA Cut the Heart Out of Our Constitution?
    1. It would Transform Our Constitution From One of Enumerated Spending Powers To One of General (“Unlimited”) Spending Powers. http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3795

  5. MR2 says:

    Hi all wave

  6. MR2 says:

    I call it IntenseHeadache software and soon you will too!

  7. MR2 says:

    Did anyone catch the news article about the scientist that is making food out of sewage mud?

    He says there is lots of protein.

  8. IdahoAnnie says:

    MegansDad posted this over on the Growl, I think it's worth a repost. I'm sending it to my email list. This informaiton is worth a trillion bucks……. or so.

    These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting. Read to the end.

    Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual savings.
    Save America 's Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.
    International Fund for Ireland . $17 million annual savings.
    Legal Services Corporation. $420 million annual savings.
    National Endowment for the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.
    National Endowment for the Humanities. $167.5 million annual savings.
    Hope VI Program. $250 million annual savings.
    Amtrak Subsidies. $1.565 billion annual savings.
    Eliminate duplicative education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
    U.S. Trade Development Agency. $55 million annual savings.
    Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding. $47 million annual savings.
      John C. Stennis Center Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.
      Community Development Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
      Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual savings.
      Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual savings
      Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.
      Essential Air Service. $150 million annual savings.
      Technology Innovation Program. $70 million annual savings.
      Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million annual savings.
      Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization. $530 million annual savings.
      Beach Replenishment. $95 million annual savings.
      New Starts Transit. $2 billion annual savings.
      Exchange Programs for Alaska , Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        Partners in Massachusetts . $9 million annual savings
        Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.
        Title X Family Planning. $318 million annual savings.
        Appalachian Regional Commission. $76 million annual savings.
        Economic Development Administration. $293 million annual savings.
        Programs under the National and Community Services Act. $1.15 billion annual savings.
        Applied Research at Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual savings.
        FreedomCAR and Fuel Partnership. $200 million annual savings.
        Energy Star Program. $52 million annual savings.
        Economic Assistance to Egypt . $250 million annually.
        U.S. Agency for International Development. $1.39 billion annual savings.

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        General Assistance to District of Columbia . $210 million annual savings.
        Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150 million annual savings.
        Presidential Campaign Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.
        No funding for federal office space acquisition. $864 million annual savings.
        End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
        Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act. More than $1 billion annually.

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget. $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
        Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1 billion total savings.WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees. $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
        Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of. $15 billion total savings.

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.
        Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.
        Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings
        Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.
        USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.
        Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings.
        Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.
        Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.
        Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings..
        HUD Ph.D. Program.
        Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
        TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years

        My question is, what is all this doing in the budget in the first place?

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.
        Eliminate Mohair Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.
        Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. $12.5 million annual savings
        Eliminate Market Access Program. $200 million annual savings.
        USDA Sugar Program. $14 million annual savings.
        Subsidy to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). $93 million annual savings.
        Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program. $56.2 million annual savings.
        Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million savings.
        Ready to Learn TV Program. $27 million savings..
        HUD Ph.D. Program.
        Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
        TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years

        My question is, what is all this doing in the budget in the first place?
        Send this to everyone you know! I am.

  9. Gary H says:

    Well well well……………..

  10. Michael says:

    Umm, no thank you. I think I'll just kill it and grill it myself.

  11. Luis522 says:

    Iran's Barrel Of Monkeys

    FROM THE DONKEYS MOUTH

    Another dark and haunting walk down 1600 Memory Lane.
    Almost a year ago, Barack Insane Obama gave NASA a new mission statement. Was it to "boldly go where no man has ever gone before"? Well…kinda…

    Barack Obama ordered the new Nasa administrator, retired U.S. Marines Corps* major, Charles Bolden, with the mission of making the muslims "feel good" about themselves; their "achievements".
    ?! Achievements?! How hard is it to force-train people to make, and strap, BOMBS on people to KILL others on schoolbuses; in schools; in theor homes; the food mkts, hotels…even in their own MOSQUES!
    It was BAD ENOUGH when he BENT OVER for the terrorist-sponsoring Saudi King!

    THE MONKEY ON OUR BACKS
    The headlines read: Iran Plans to Launch a Monkey into Space, July 2011
    Could these monkeys ve the very ones that got addicted to cocaine – treated by the taxpayers?!
    I'm thinking ICBM!
    So, in compliance with Obama's mission, shouldn't BOzo also TREAT the Iranians to some good ol' American-made NUCLEAR WAR HEADS?! Maybe several?! Hey, it could be kept "on-the-downlow"!
    Psssssst! Sneak it out through the southern border. Yhrow in some billions, as well! Write it up as a research grant to find out if kangaroos could run the JUSTICE DEPT!
    Oops! My bad! They already do! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
    * Just for the record, this is for those that like to point out gaffes:
    Corps /kôr/ (Pronounced "kor"). – A separate branch or department. The "P" and the "S" are silent!
    VERY different from CORPSE /kôrps/ – A dead body.
    (The definition should also include a liberal/RINOs mind!)

  12. Luis522 says:

    Email from a TPP member:
    The" HALT BILL" legislation that would prevent the Obama Administration from offering amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.
    It does look like the Dream Act Bill that congress was unwilling to pass on two occasions.
    The American people said no. But that did not stop This administration from using executive privileged again.
    Please call or send your rep in Congress to pass this Bill.
    jj
    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/june-28-20

  13. gladimamerican says:

    As I'm sure most of you have heard, Houston National Cemetery Director, Arleen Ocasio has told families of Veterans they may not use the words "Jesus" or "God" at any funeral or ceremony without her approval. Michael Berry http://www.ktrh.com/pages/michaelberry.html , a local talk show host has called for people to stand with local Veterans that are fighting back and contact this POS (my expression) Arleen Ocasio at 281-447-8686, ext. 206 and the Dept. of Veterans Affairs (DC Office) 202-373-5400, to express your disgust at this policy. I hope that we at Rebuilding Freedom will respond to the call and pick up the phone. If you visit Berry's site, he has a sample script you can use.

    • gladimamerican says:

      There seems to be a problem with the Dept of Veteran Affairs number, it's no longer in service. I copied it from Berry's website. I'm sorry I didn't check it first. The other number is correct, I called it twice and got the cemetery but someone else called it and they were told it was a private number, so go ahead and call it, even if you get a run around.

    • gladimamerican says:

      There seems to be a problem with the Dept of Veteran Affairs number, it's no longer in service. I copied it from Berry's website. I'm sorry I didn't check it first. The other number is correct, I called it twice (281-447-8686) and got the cemetery but someone else called it and they were told it was a private number, so go ahead and call it, even if you get a run around.

  14. Luis522 says:

    "Hello, America!"

    This was it! The King of the 5:00pm slot shuts down his set at Fox. His trademark, "the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment" would reach more than just the airwaves. It would reach the hearts of millions of listerers — only to be surpassed with his viewers.

    Glenn Beck spoke his mind . . . and his heart.
    You can call him loud, and even a crazy crybaby, but I'll always know that he spoke true from his heart.

    I've learned a lot from the self-proclaimed "rodeo clown". What I learned most was HOW to think.
    His favorite quote, "Question with boldness", will stay with me always.

    He leaves Fox News triumphantly; with a BANG, and not a whimper! A ratings GIANT! He leaves to reach even further.
    I will stick with Glenn Beck. His views are factual, and his passion is absolutely contageous!

    I'll keep hearing, and watching you, Glenn.
    It will not be, "Goodbye, America" for Glenn Beck.
    It'll be, "until tomorrow…"
    - Luis522

  15. Luis522 says:

    People roam around
    As if in a daze
    Wondering why and how
    We got inside this maze

    They blame us
    And we blame them
    But until we blame ourselves
    This fatal cycle will never end

    They promised us safety
    Prosperity, and jobs
    The very things they promised
    Are the very things they rob

    How, oh, how
    Am I supposed to feel free
    When everywhere I turn
    My voice is taken away from me

    We're no longer United
    The People are losing their way
    It's getting harder to believe
    In our Independence Day

    I wish you all a safe and Blessed July 4th.
    - Luis522

  16. MR2 says:

    Battle Hymn of the Republic – The Mormon Tabernacle Choir
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmTWVJ_pXBk&NR

  17. MR2 says:

    Check out this site that DHR found. What we have there is a really dangerous so-called progressive, because he is rational.

    Rational in his delusion. And he is trying to teach other so-called progressives to be more effective.

    I urge all of us to study this guys method, for the "How-To" techniques apply to us as well.
    http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/2011/06/

  18. Hobbes says:

    "God Bless America, My Home, Sweet Home"! Have a wonderful and safe 4th of July everyone! :-)

  19. MR2 says:

    They sent my Census form back!!

    In answer to the question, 'Do you have any dependents?',

    I put …… 'Asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, crack heads, unemployable bastards, the cast of The Jerry Springer Show, 80,000 people in our 133 penal establishments in Texas, leftovers in Texas from Katrina, half of Mexico, some of the Congress, most of the Senate and a Muslim President!'

    …………….. Apparently this wasn't an acceptable answer.

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      MR2, I do not see anything wrong with your answer. What do they want? Does it come with an instruction booklet in Spanish and Arabic?

  20. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Where are the new congressional members who will fight for us? Why are they not speaking out at every turn that o makes. Fight every executive order. Face o down. Scared? Wimps? The system too tough to navigate? Worried about re-election? Get in there, raise some stink and get out. One term is enough time to fix some things and then the next person shows up and continues the battle.

  21. IdahoAnnie says:

    Thank you, Glenn Beck, for pointing us to the path for liberty. Thank you for reminding us just what we felt on 9-12-2001, and the 9 principles and 12 values that make America the greatest country in the world.

    Thank you for the gift of education, to keep ourselves and those around us curious and informed, so that we can be better Americans and make a difference.

    And most of all, thank you for letting us know that WE Surround Them and for the strength and hope that comes in knowing that we are NOT alone.

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      Annie, agree with what you said but I still think a national leader with a good TV presence and access to the media would be very helpful for our cause. We are spinning info within our own circle and we need to get outside the box. so to speak.

  22. IdahoAnnie says:

    Happy Birthday America and to all it's TRUE Patriots. God Bless America, God Bless you all! http://www.rebuildingfreedom.org

  23. Luis522 says:

    Greece Or Grease?

    Are the Euros at the IMF enabling Greece to grease its rails for that trip over the cliff?

    Greek Parliament Approves Sweeping Austerity Plan
    Greece's parliament approved a $40 billion austerity package on Wednesday, opening the door to a fresh rescue from European lenders.

    The embattled country has a nearly $500 billion public debt burden that amounts to 150% of its annual economic output. The European Union and International Monetary Fund provided Greece with a $158 billion bailout package last year, but that proved to be insufficient.

    Greece needs roughly $17 billion in the short-run to pay off the next tranche of debt. Without the aid, many analysts say it is possible that the country will default on its obligations, potentially creating a cascading effect that could endanger global financial markets.

    The EU and IMF have pushed Greece to take deep austerity measures before approving this round of aid. However, the austerity measures involve increasing taxes and cutting expenses, moves that have sparked large-scale and sometimes violent protests throughout the capital of Athens.

    The vote was passed by a tight margin: 155 for and 138 against. All but one of the 155 ruling PASOK party members voted for the bill, plus one conservative opposition member, according to a report by Reuters. Parliament is expected to vote on Thursday on the specifics of the implementation. http://m.foxbusiness.com/quickPage.html?page=1945….

    Can someone please explain to me how does anybody vote for anything WITHOUT "SPECIFIC" LANGUAGE?! How do bankers APPROVE $Bs in loans based solely on notions?!

    Greece's debt is at 150% of GDP! They want to BORROW (More debt) to "meet" their obligations . . .FOR JUST ONE MONTH?!
    lol! How does that make any sense?!

    Meanwhile…
    CBO Sees U.S. Federal Debt This Year Climbing to 70% of GDP http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-22/cbo-sees….

    well, the Dem/RINOs DO badly want the U.S. to follow the Euro-socialist system after all, right?
    We're getting there!

    What did these "world class" bankers and economists actually LEARN in school?!
    I wouldn't call "their" schooling HGHER LEARNING. I'd call it trying to learn while being HIGH!

  24. ebarnes says:

    One of new members billxman asked me to post this for him. Thanks for the info. We appreciate your sharing!!!!!
    An Illegal Aliens Guide to the Top Places to live in America http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/29/illegal

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      ebarnes, just what we do not need.

    • Hobbes says:

      Yep, Illinois… a great state to be a minority in … particularly if you speak Spanish as your main language! We pay local park taxes just so every non-English speaking deadbeat within a 40 mile radius can come and take them over every weekend! We went to town to watch our local fireworks last night, but, had to stand in a parking lot with other non-spanish speaking citizens because the main park on the 4th is always taken over by non-taxpaying, Mexican only, people who set it up as a mini barrio. If Obama is reelected, that will be the new mainstream America! There will be no way to stop it!

  25. Luis522 says:

    "One Small Step For Man . . ."

    The space shuttle Atlantis will bid its farewell with its final flight, and the final mission, of NASA's shuttle program.
    Thirty years ago, on April 12, 1981, and just shy of the 40th Annversary of Kennedy's famous speech, Columbia was successfully launched.

    "But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic?

    We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." – JFK, May 25, 1961

    The program's accomplishments are many, but its tragedies are numerous as well. At least 16 people have lost their lives since its first flight.

    Where do we go from here?! As an American, I had always known, and, yes, had taken for granted, the fact that we were trailblazers. "American Exceptionalism" IS DIFFERENT than all others. It is so because our ideas, our goals, and our very thoughts, as individuals and as a nation, are founded on that rare and very special thing: LIBERTY.
    A human being that can express their ideas and beliefs freely – and without FEAR of consequence – can and will achieve many things. And, we have!

    The American space program has served as our beacon. All of our ideas, inventions, and innovations made the creation of NASA possible. But, has it been obligated to face towards the sunset to land in the shadows? Will the final memory for those families and friends that have lost their loved ones — and, yet, have been able to hold their heads up honorably – live the rest of their lives in the shadows of these words:
    "NASA’s new mission — make Muslim countries ‘feel good"?!

    Will the agency that brought us to the moon, and the hubble telescope, as well as many other things into space, be humiliated and demoted to the level of "political social workers" for this Administration?

    ". . . One giant creep for mankind!"
    - Luis522

  26. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Tax Czar here. Issue: day care expenses. The IRS is going to fine taxpayers and day care providers $50.00 each if the tax return form 2441 for day care expenses does not have the name, address, and federal ID # (or soc #) for the day care provider. Pass this on to anyone who has children, day care expenses and files a US tax form 1040.

  27. ebarnes says:

    More info form our friend billxman
    How to read bar codes

    see reply

  28. ebarnes says:

    more info from billxman
    How to read bar codes
    Many products no longer show where they were made, only give where the distributor is located. It is important to read the bar code to track it's origin.

    The whole world is afraid of China-made"black hearted goods".

    Can you differentiate which one is made in Taiwan or China ?

    If the first 3 digits of the barcode are 690, 691 or 692, the product is MADE IN CHINA.

    471 is Made in Taiwan .

    This is our right to know, but the government and related departments never educate the public, therefore we have to RESCUE ourselves.

    Nowadays, Chinese businessmen know that consumers do not prefer products "MADE IN CHINA ", so they don't show from which country it is made. However, you may now refer to the barcode -remember if the first 3 digits are:

    690-692 … then it is MADE IN CHINA
    00 – 09 … USA & CANADA
    30 – 37 .. FRANCE
    40 – 44 … GERMANY
    471 … TAIWAN
    49 … JAPAN
    50 … UK

  29. Luis522 says:

    BUYER BEWARE!
    Have you heard of the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare (NCPSSM) website, and I found the following:
    That the charlatan org, which collects membership dues from seniors, and makes contributions exclusively to the Dem Party, also lobbies AGAINST a Constitutional Balanced Budget Amendment.
    It reads: (excerpt)
    A Constitutional Balanced Budget Amendment Threatens Social Security
    The House Committee on the Judiciary recently reported out H.J. Res. 1, a proposal to write a balanced budget amendment into the Constitution. H.J. Res. 1 would require a balanced budget every year regardless of the state of the economy, unless a supermajority of both houses overrode that requirement. Unlike past versions of a balance budget amendment, H.J. Res 1 would also impose an arbitrary and unrealistic spending cap of 18 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), a level not seen since 1965. The government would be allowed to exceed this cap only if approved by two-thirds of the full Congress. The proposed amendment would also limit any increase to the debt ceiling unless approved by three-fifths of the whole number of the House and Senate, and prohibit any increases in revenue unless agreed to by two-thirds of Congress.
    As a result, this version of the balanced budget amendment would require draconian spending cuts of such a magnitude as to force policymakers to severely slash Medicare, Medicaid, and many other programs while opening the door to massive new tax cuts. At the same time, it would make it very difficult to achieve balance through revenue raisers such as tax increases or to raise the debt ceiling. http://www.ncpssm.org/news/archive/vp_constitutio
    I think that you can see their political/ideological standing. The National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare (NCPSSM) is as CROOKED as ACORN!
    Buyer beware!

    Other evidence I found:
    http://waysandmeans.house.gov/legacy/socsec/107co
    http://ip-173-201-187-68.ip.secureserver.net/unso

  30. Luis522 says:

    Retiring with Dignity: Social Security vs Private Markets
    ' Retiring with financial dignity is in jeopardy. That is the direct result of Social Security's ever-expanding role in the economics of both retirees and workers. Compassionate in intent, but flawed in design, Social Security will prevent many from enjoying financial security in their later years.
    Unlike personal savings, pensions, and independent retirement accounts, all of which are stores of wealth, Social Security is a misguided political construct, wherein one's retirement benefits are dependent on the willingness of future workers to be taxed.
    Benefits paid to present recipients are low. Benefits to be paid to future recipients will be even lower. Worse, the legal requirement to pay Social Security taxes prevents workers from investing the money lost to those taxes in higher earning assets.
    Beyond that, the unsound financial foundation of the system virtually ensures that the promised benefits, low as they are, will be reduced even further. In the past, when Social Security's financial precariousness was addressed, the legislative response was to increase taxes and reduce benefits. Such responses not only failed to solve the problem, they exacerbated it.
    There is a better solution. Allow people the freedom to invest their Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) taxes in financial assets such as stocks and bonds. History shows that the financial return on those instruments meets retirement needs at a fraction of Social Security's cost.
    For example, assuming historical rates of return, if individuals born in 1970 were allowed to invest in stocks the amount they currently pay in Social Security taxes, those individuals could receive nearly six times the benefits that they are scheduled to receive under Social Security, as much as $11,729 per month. Even a low-wage earner would receive nearly three times the return on Social Security.
    The idea of privatizing a public pension system is neither new nor untried. Where it has been properly implemented, it has been remarkably successful. For governments, privatization is the only viable answer to Social Security's inherent problems; for individuals, it is a profitable one.' Read more:
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/ssps/ssp2.html

  31. gladimamerican says:

    Supreme Court refuses to stay execution of Illegal mexican in Texas! A statement by the court on their refusal in part says "We have no authority to stay an execution in light of an 'appeal of the president' presenting free-ranging assertions of foreign policy consequences, when those assertions come unaccompanied by a persuasive legal claim." This POS is an illegal brought to this country when he was 2, (and they want a "dream act") and the "poor" man (he probably just wanted to work and pay taxes, right?) wasn't told he could meet with a rep of the mexican consulate (hmmm, we aren't supposed to ask what their status is, so how would we know to offer?) He committed the most heinous of crimes, he deserves his sentence. Because of this POS, I would recommend anyone traveling to mexico beware, while the goverment and the law are corrupt to begin with, this ruling will in all probability have consequences for innocent Americans traveling in mexico. This was breaking on Fox news, so as of now, I have no link.

  32. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Now is the time for one of us to surface who will lead us to the next level. Beck brought us this far. We do not need a Tea Party leader. We need a voice that is heard loud and clear. A voice that embraces the Tea Party ideals. One who is not afraid of those who are wrecking this great Nation. One who is respected, a good presenter of facts, and has the time and desire to make this a full time daily effort. There are so many who can bring information to one place and from there the data can be sent out. We need to attack the likes of the czars, DC politicorepubcrats, van jones and his ilk, the UN and such. I just feel we are too spread out and we have no solid voice. I wish one of the freshman congressional leaders took up this flag but I do not see it yet. Don't Tread On Me.

  33. Hobbes says:

    Everyone is talking about whether to cut "Entitlements". Hmm… before Obama, "Entitlements" meant Welfare and Medicaid which none of the recipients paid anything into. Now "Entitlements" mean Social Security and Medicare both of which are mandates from the government that workers are forced to pay into. However, nowhere do I find anyone talking about cutting Welfare. It appears in that area the Obama "stash" will just continue on with no interruption and/or disdain. Makes you believe you were just a fool to believe that not being a dead beat and working hard had some value. I should have just sat around on my butt, have a bunch of kids out of wedlock and watched Oprah! Then I wouldn't be such a blight on society for having paid into funds of not my choosing. The Left have spun everything, including the definitions of words, into their favor and there is no end in sight!

    • ebarnes says:

      Hobbes,
      I am with you there. I should have done the same thing. Just not worked and sat on my butt and collected my check and had health care where I didn't have to pay any kind of copay. Sheesh!!!

  34. IdahoAnnie says:

    Fellow Patriots. I have found a blogsite that is so close to my heart and the honor that our country deserves. The owner has a voice that echoes the mind of saving America and bringing back what our founders and fellow patriots fought and died so hard for. We owe it to them to open ourselves up to the ideas and voice of others outside of our small circle of friends. Look past the name and look to the truth of what is said there. We are all fighting for the same cause, the same Constitution and the same America. If debate comes from your visit there, so much the better for freedom.
    http://barbarianwarfare.blogspot.com/

  35. Luis522 says:

    WHERE DOES IT END?!

    Bernanke: Fed Weighing QE3 to Stimulate U.S. Economy
    ' The Federal Reserve, while categorizing the shocks that have slowed the U.S. economy as temporary, is nevertheles examining several untested means to stimulate growth ' http://m.ibtimes.com/bernanke-fed-federal-reserve

    That one tiny sentence says EVERYTHING about the Obama Admn, and the Fed.
    First, Bernanke says that they Are "weighing"… Hmmm…

    According to the Huff-n-Puff Bloats:
    "Obama Open To Economic Stimulus As Part Of Debt Reduction Deal"

    ???!!!
    SPEND (WASTE) EVEN MORE $$$$ – because it will help "reduce" that very same debt problem?!

    i Want to laugh, but it's not funny. Bernanke's "weighing", and Obama is "open"!
    That adds up to MORE SPENDING! A HIGHER DEFICIT!

    Now, back to Bernanke…
    TWO "QEs" since the Obama brought in his regime, thus far, and the economy continues its FREEFALL?! Unemployment continues to CLIMB?!
    Common sense tells me that if its BROKEn – STOP the TAXPAYER'S BORROWED MONEY from hemorrhaging, and THROW THOSE PLANS AWAY!
    The only things that were "stimulated" were the union's/DNC's pockets, and the MONKEYS doing cocaine! (They're both the same!)

    How many zeros do the Democrats want to add to our DEBT?!

    Ireland’s credit rating cut to near junk bond status http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/markets-ec

    S&P Slashes Greece Ratings 3 Notches; Outlook Negative http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110613-7086

    How many…

  36. Luis522 says:

    During the mid-term elections of 2010, the American people had expressed their disgust, and dismay, with the direction that the Obama administration had taken our nation during his first two years – with help, of course, from the Democrat Party's overwhelmingly controlling numbers in both the House and Senate.

    Numbers don't lie. From the Hill to the local state elections, the results were STAGGERING! The People had had enough. Obama himself called it a "shellacking".

    2011
    It hasn't even been a year since then, and there is only one thing that I've learned… NOTHING HAS CHANGED!
    The election has NOT STOPPED the SUICIDAL SPENDING SPREE that everybody from the WH – to the Senate – to the Treasury and Fed want so badly to continue;
    AND
    The Republicns, once again, are starting to CRACK under the pressure being pushed down by the LIBERAL-COMPLICIT media.

    It appears that Senate Republican Leader, Mitch McConnell, wants to throw his hands in the air; give Obama COMPLETE CONTROL of legislation – ONCE AGAIN –
    and HOPE that the "People" will blame Obama for EVERYTHING that'll happen – for once and for all!

    WRONG MESSAGE, MR McCONNELL!!!
    What this ACTIVE VOTER sees is you RUNNING FOR COVER, and SAVING YOUR OWN HIDE!

    HELLO!!! WAKE UP!!!
    We already KNOW who did what! Remember 2010?!
    Stop trying to KEEP your job and DO your job!
    - Luis522

  37. Hobbes says:

    This is why I like Paul Ryan and why we need him. I hope to God he doesn't get discouraged and give up. Go to the link and select listen. It's an interview this morning on Chicago's WLS Don & Roma show. Finally an adult in the playground! http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2236132&s

  38. Hobbes says:

    Hard to believe, I know, but Joe Walsh is from Illinois and next election (if the redistricting goes through) I'll be able to vote for him … which is too bad in a way because I like Randy Hultgren too but the scheming here with districts will pit them against each other. Anyhow, here's a video of him from RedState…. he's really telling it like it is and is putting Obama beautifully down. I just LOVE IT!!! http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011/07/13/muc

  39. IdahoAnnie says:

    Hello all,
    To improve speed and ease of use I have changed our site design. I will be putting the Rebuilding Freedom masthead back and adding some color. Please be my beta tester and let me know how you like the new design. I need feedback on IE7, IE8, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, etc. and how they respond to the new design. Thanks for helping make Rebuilding Freedom a better site for use by all Patriots.

  40. Hobbes says:

    Joe Walsh (R-IL)…. more criticisms of Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6Q53eBjv8&am

  41. Luis522 says:

    A Brief Summary Of BHO's Plans To Lower The Debt:







    – (No-no! This isn't a typo! THERE'S NOTHING HERE . . . not THERE . . . nor ANYWHERE! )

    Obama: Look! The SocSec boogeyman! RUN!!!
    Mr Obama, "Have you no shame, sir" – Joe Walsh (R-IL)

  42. Luis522 says:

    Lets Do The Twist!

    Communism… Socialism… Progressivism… Environmentalism… Globalism…

    "I am a modern day Progressive" – Hillary Clinton

    I used to use these terms repeatedly, myself, up until a couple of years ago. I use them a lot less these days, because I noticed that there were, and still are, plenty of people out there that don't seem to associate these terms with the root origin.

    So, lets cut to the chase. Lets go to the very source of it. LIBERALISM. And, where do liberals nest?

    The Democrat Party, and inside the walls – where the RINOs live!

    The Dems NEED to continuously keep changing their lexicon. Their skin.

    Alinsky strategies call for deception and confusion. Hence, communism has been sterilized, and diluted away from the language.

    "We're going to have to change our conversation" – Mchelle Obama

    Raising taxes has become raising REVENUE. Spending has become INVESTMENT. Redstribution of wealth; and "Putting-our-boots-on-their(businsses; class warfare)-necks" has become SHARED SACRIFICE. Where doing absolutely jack-squat has been twisted to "I'M WILLING TO AT (or LOOK INTO)…"

    True American Prosperity has been REPLACED with the liberal agenda, or "PROGRESS".

    "I do believe there's hope for progress" – Barack Obama, Response speech after the 2010 midterm election

    Speech on the midterm election results
    I rest my case.

    Stay focused, Patriots!
    ;-)

  43. MR2 says:

    I have a concern about the Balanced budget Amendment. If this were to pass, the Congress would be faced with two options: Cut Spending or Raise Revenue.

    Experience has shown us that the Congress is only capable of doing one of these options…

    But on the other hand most States have this and we don't have any states getting into trouble over the budget now do we…

    Am I wrong? Have we really thought this through? What would improve the BBA to prevent abuse? Thanks.

    For the record: I'm for cutting spending and lowering the debt ceiling.

  44. ebarnes says:

    Gotta love the Nug: "You Have the Right to Remain Stupid"
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/13/y

  45. fedupinnyc says:

    The gift that keeps on giving.

    Gun-smuggling cartel figures possibly were paid FBI informants

    Congressional investigators probing the controversial "Fast and Furious" anti-gun-trafficking operation on the border with Mexico believe at least six Mexican drug cartel figures involved in gun smuggling also were paid FBI informants, officials said Saturday.

    The investigators have asked the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration for details about the alleged informants, as well as why agents at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the Fast and Furious operation, were not told about them.
    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la

  46. Hobbes says:

    Here's an example of how Obamacare is restricting states. Illinois passed a bipartisan Medicaid reform bill in January of this year. Linked is a summary of what is in the bill. The bill is expected to save our financially strapped state millions of dollars during the next few years. Scroll down to the last paragraph where the bill is to enhance the eligibility process. This, as you'll notice, is "subject to federal approval". I just learned this morning from our Senator, Mark Kirk, that the Health and Human Services Department under the auspices of Obamacare has not approved it.

    They have overruled it by saying that we CANNOT require a person to prove income nor residency. Great, huh? Illinois taxpayers have no right to expect their in state tax money to go to Illinois residents and we also have no right to assure only low income people are getting the benefits. Mark Kirk said he was first going to send a letter signed by State Legislators to the Administration to get the bureaucrats to reverse this and if that doesn't stop it, he will go to the Senate and introduce legislation.

    Another example of the takeover of the states by Obama. (Under the guise of Obamacare, of course!) http://illinoisissuesblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/qu

  47. IdahoAnnie says:

    ok friends of liberty, let's flex some muscle here. I just watched O'Reilly and it seems that Hollywood is starting to donate to BOs 2012 campaign.
    We have the power of boycotting their projects and movies. How about it gang? Shall we get a list together? I'm all for putting a pinch on their pocketbooks………… how about you?

  48. Hobbes says:

    State of Illinois bankrupt, taxes skyrocketing and Jesse White (D), Illinois Secretary of State, gives his administrative staff a 6% salary increase. It will cost Illinois taxpayers about one million dollars MORE a year! No "sacrifice" there!

  49. Luis522 says:

    Not In The MOODy's For McConnell

    Mitch McConnell’s “Pontius Pilate Pass the Buck Act of 2011.”
    Republicans and Democrats who are spinning it in favor of folding like a cheap suit and just raising the debt ceiling should pay attention.
    According to Moody’s,
    “the outlook assigned at that time to the government bond rating would very likely be changed to negative at the conclusion of the review unless substantial and credible agreement is achieved on a budget that includes long-term deficit reduction. To retain a stable outlook, such an agreement should include a deficit trajectory that leads to stabilization and then decline in the ratios of federal government debt to GDP and debt to revenue beginning within the next few years.”
    That is directly opposite of the McConnell plan, which would let President Obama raise the debt ceiling by $2 trillion automatically over the next year.
    It does, however, make a strong case for a Balanced Budget Amendment, something both Mitch McConnell and Barack Obama are rejecting. A Balanced Budget Amendment, particularly the Lee-Cornyn-Hatch BBA proposal, would require expenditures equal revenue within five years of passage.
    It also, incidentally, makes the case for Paul Ryan’s plan, which would present a clear path to a balanced budget over time, though longer than I’d like.
    * http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/07/13/moodys-r

  50. fedupinnyc says:

    WTF??????

    UN security council to consider climate change peacekeeping

    Special meeting to discuss 'green helmets' force to intervene in conflicts caused by rising seas levels and shrinking resources

    A special meeting of the United Nations security council is due to consider whether to expand its mission to keep the peace in an era of climate change.

    Small island states, which could disappear beneath rising seas, are pushing the security council to intervene to combat the threat to their existence.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/20

  51. Luis522 says:

    From B-O To B-S
    According to FNC, BO may NOW be doing a " 180* " on the Debt Ceiling EXTENSION! After ALL the big government-photo-op bravado!
    THIS is whom the RINOs are bending-over-backwards to bend over forewards for?!

    THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

    On the flip side . . .

    The whacko-media, like Salon, and MediaMatters, are SPITTING POISON ( lol! ) over Vegas tycoon, Steve Wynn's, FACTS!
    Listen for yourself how Steve calls "this Admn" a "WET BLANKET", and "SOCIALIST"! http://www.theblaze.com/stories/steve-wynn-rants-

    "And, until he's (BO) gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs!" – Steve Wynn

    AND HE'S A TRUE DEMOCRAT!
    Steve Wynn, I respect you!

    That's MORE than I can ever say about ANY RINO!

  52. IdahoAnnie says:

    Now What?! House Passes DOA ‘Cut, Cap, Balance’ Bill — Now About That Debt Limit…

    In a heavily partisan vote Tuesday, the House of Representatives passed the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act — a palatable-sounding piece of legislation that, if enacted, would slash federal programs deeply, and restrict dramatically the government's ability to do anything constructive for the country.
    It also would graft those requirements into the Constitution, on the threat of a catastrophic debt default. Now leaders of both parties will have to scramble to make sure that doesn't happen.
    The legislation, described in depth here, would make raising the debt limit contingent on both deep immediate spending cuts, and the passage, by supermajorities in Congress, of a Constitutional amendment that would kick federal spending down to historic lows. The so-called Balanced Budget Amendment would force the government to achieve fiscal balance by making deeper and deeper cuts — because raising taxes would, by Constitutional fiat, require two-thirds of the members of both the House and Senate to agree to do so.

    Read more in reply

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      The final vote was 234-190 with nine Republicans voting no, and five Democrats voting yes. The Republicans voting with the Dems were Reps. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Paul Broun (R-GA), Francisco Canseco (R-TX), Scott Desjarles (R-TN), Morgan Griffith (R-VA), Walter Jones (R-NC), Connie Mack (R-FL), Ron Paul (R-TX), and Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA). The Dems voting with the GOP were Blue Dogs Reps. Dan Boren (D-OK), Jim Cooper (D-TN), Jim Matheson (D-UT), Mike McIntyre (D-NC), and Heath Shuler (R-NC). Two Republicans and seven Democrats did not vote.

      Even more……….

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        The good news is that the legislation will now die a quiet death in the Senate. The better news is that, when the ballet is finally over, the House and Senate will finally figure out how exactly they'll raise the statutory debt limit.
        The bad news is that time is running out. August 2 is the drop dead date before the country defaults on its debt, and still neither of the viable options on the table — the grand bargain, the backup plan, or anything in between — can pass in the House, where the agenda is currently driven by hot-tempered conservatives.
        But the idea behind Tuesday's vote is to placate those conservatives, and give Republicans who know the debt ceiling must be raised cover to vote for a compromise in the days ahead. If it succeeds at that, then maybe the price of posturing will have been worth it

        Source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/now-wh

        • topshot says:

          The threat of default is a tool being used by the Dems to gain the sympathies of the uninformed. The interest on the national Debt is 20 Billion a month. The Feds take in 100 Billion a month. Therefore the interest can be paid and the SS checks can go out and the Military can also be paid. The default would only come at the hands of the current administrations refusal to pay what there is money to pay for. They want to keep their voter friendly programs intact so they can count on receiving that vote come election time. Obama refuses to get into the game, he would rather sit on the sideline and let the Liberal Media carry his water. Unfortunately to many Americans are to stupid to realize what the game is. So the country will suffer until this Imposter in Chief it removed from office.

  53. IdahoAnnie says:

    Is West a threat to the democrates? Someone thinks so. The race card isn't working…………… so how about men against women? Let's try to get rid of someone we disagree with……………

    I didn't see any women come to the defense of Sara Palin when she was attacked, or Bachman about her migraines. Where were the women to come to their defense? Those attacks were uncalled for and mean. Allen West was verbally defending himself in a battle that has been heated on both sides. He is asked to apologize, where is the aplogy from Debbie Wasserman Schultz? Because she is a woman, she isn't expected to be civil? Give me a break………………..

  54. Hobbes says:

    In case you haven't heard or seen it, Boehner sent out a letter to the Republican members of the House before Obama ran out to cry it's not my fault, blame the Republicans press conference and here it is:

    The following letter was sent from Speaker Boehner to House Members and staff Friday.

    "Dear Colleague,
    Our economy is not creating enough jobs, and the policies coming out of Washington are a big reason why. Because of Washington, we have a tax code that is stifling job creation. Because of Washington, we have a debt crisis that is sowing uncertainty and sapping the confidence of small businesses. Because of Washington, our children are financing a government spending binge that is jeopardizing their future.
    Since the moment I became Speaker, I’ve urged President Obama to lock arms with me and seize this moment to do something significant to address these challenges. I’ve urged him to partner with congressional Republicans to do something dramatic to change the fiscal trajectory of our country. . .something that will boost confidence in our economy, renew a measure of faith in our institutions of government, and help small businesses get back to creating jobs.
    The House this week passed such a plan. . .the Cut, Cap & Balance Act, which passed the House with bipartisan support.
    Along with Majority Leader Cantor, I have also engaged the president in a dialogue in recent days. The purpose of this dialogue was to see if we could identify a path forward that would implement the principles of Cut, Cap, & Balance in a manner that could secure bipartisan support and be signed into law.
    During these discussions – as in my earlier discussions – it became evident that the White House is simply not serious about ending the spending binge that is destroying jobs and endangering our children’s future.
    A deal was never reached, and was never really close.
    In the end, we couldn’t connect. Not because of different personalities, but because of different visions for our country.
    The president is emphatic that taxes have to be raised. As a former small businessman, I know tax increases destroy jobs.
    The president is adamant that we cannot make fundamental changes to our entitlement programs. As the father of two daughters, I know these programs won’t be there for their generation unless significant action is taken now.
    For these reasons, I have decided to end discussions with the White House and begin conversations with the leaders of the Senate in an effort to find a path forward.
    The Democratic leaders of the House and Senate have not been participants in the conversations I and Leader Cantor have had with the White House; nor have the Republican leaders of the Senate. But I believe there is a shared commitment on both sides of the aisle to producing legislation that will serve the best interests of our country in the days ahead – legislation that reflects the will of the American people, consistent with the principles of the Cut, Cap, & Balance Act that passed the House with bipartisan support this week.
    I wanted to alert you to these developments as soon as possible. Further information will be coming as soon as it is available. It is an honor to serve with you. Together, we will do everything in our power to end the spending binge in Washington and help our economy get back to creating jobs.
    Sincerely,
    John Boehner"

  55. PatriotEagle1 says:

    It is time for the repubs to walk into o's office and tell him to get out of the way. Time to walk into geithner's office and shut him down. Let Allen West lead the charge. Time to tell holder to stop the insulting lawsuits against the states. Time to stand up and fight back. enough is enough and perhaps this FALSE deadline of 8/2 may be the beginning of the fall of the occupier of the oval office. Time to tighten up border security.

    • fedupinnyc says:

      They should all be arrested and dragged out in cuffs.

      • PatriotEagle1 says:

        fed, it is time to take it back. time to take back what they took from us. plenty of handcuffs to go around. let holder go first. he can lead the way. obama right behind him.

  56. Hobbes says:

    Yes sir, another made up crisis that Obama is hoping to politically make some hay from. More money from us and campaign propaganda. I'm so glad that Boehner got out there with his own press conference to publicize how Obama "moved the goalpost" and that he and Obama have different visions for the Country. Even though he didn't elaborate on those differences…. could it be Boehner is now realizing that Obama is not interested in helping the Country but only interested in hurting it?

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      hobbes, I believe you are correct and Boehner needs to make hay while the sun shines. expose the truth.

  57. Old Marine says:

    Rumor or The Death of the Republic and the Constitution

    Considering the source, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry….OM

    From the HuffingPuffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/23/super-co

    ‘Super Congress’: Debt Ceiling Negotiators Aim To Create New Legislative Body

    WASHINGTON — Debt ceiling negotiators think they’ve hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public’s unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.

    This “Super Congress,” composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers — six from each chamber and six from each party.

    Legislation approved by the Super Congress — which some on Capitol Hill are calling the “super committee” — would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn’t be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who’d have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.

    House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has made a Super Congress a central part of his last-minute proposal, multiple news reports and people familiar with his plan say. A picture of Boehner’s proposal began to come into focus Saturday evening: The debt ceiling would be raised for a short-term period and coupled with an equal dollar figure of cuts, somewhere in the vicinity of a trillion dollars over ten years. A second increase in the debt ceiling would be tied to the creation of a Super Congress that would be required to find a minimum amount of spending cuts. Because the the elevated panel would need at least one Democratic vote, it would be presumably include at least some revenue, though, if it’s anything like the deals on the table today, would likely be heavily slanted toward spending cuts. Or, as Obama said of the deal he was offering Republicans before Boehner walked out, “If it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue.”

    Republicans, however, are looking to force a second debt ceiling fight as part of the package, despite the Democratic rejection of the plan. Under the Republican plan, lawmakers would need to weigh in on the debt ceiling during the heat of the presidential election, a proposal Democrats reject as risky to the nation’s credit rating. “We expressed openness to two stages of cuts, but not to a short-term debt limit extension,” a Democratic aide close to the negotiations said. “Republicans only want the debt ceiling extended as far as the cuts in each tranch. That means we’ll be right back where we are today a few months down the road. We are not a Banana Republic. You don’t run America like that.”

    The aide said that Democrats are open to a series of cuts as well as a Super Congress, but only if the debt ceiling is raised sufficiently so that it pushes past the election. “Our proposal tonight was, do two tranches of cuts, but raise the debt ceiling through 2012 right now, though the McConnell process would be one way,” said the aide, leaving open the possibility that Boehner could craft a new process and distinguish it from McConnell’s, which the Tea Party despises as a dereliction of duty. “Do that now with a package of cuts, and have the joint committee” — the Super Congress — “report out a package that would be the second tranch. Republicans rejected that, and continued to push a short-term despite the fact that Reid, Pelosi and Obama all could not have been clearer that they will not support a short-term increase. A short term risks some of the same consequences as outright failure to raise the ceiling — downgraded credit rating, stocks plunge, interest rates spike, etc. It is unclear why Republicans have made this their sticking point.”

    Boehner spokesman Michael Steel argued that the inability to come to a larger deal so far left a short-term extension as an “inevitable” option. “For months, we have laid out our principles to pass a bill that fulfills the president’s request to increase the debt limit beyond the next election. We have passed a debt limit increase with the reforms the American people demand, the ‘Cut, Cap, and Balance’ bill. The Democrats who run Washington have refused to offer a plan,” he said in a statement. “Now, as a result, a two-step process is inevitable. Like the president and the entire bipartisan, bicameral congressional leadership, we continue to believe that defaulting on the full faith and credit of the United States is not an option.”

    Obama has shown himself to be a fan of the commission approach to cutting social programs and entitlements. Shortly after taking office, Obama held a major conference on deficit reduction and subsequently created, by executive order, The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. The White House made two telling appointments to chair the commission: The first was former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wy.), a well known and ill informed critic of Social Security who earned notoriety by suggesting, among other things, that the American government had become “a milk cow with 310 million tits!” His Democratic appointment was even more indicative of whose interests took priority, former Sen. Erskine Bowles (D-N.C.). Bowles is a member of Morgan Stanley’s board of directors; an adviser to Carousel Capital, a private equity firm; and is a director of Cousins Properties Incorporated, a firm with significant investments in commercial and mixed-use real estate.

  58. fedupinnyc says:

    Twelve Democratic senators have joined 45 Republicans in a fast growing movement to halt progress on an Obama-backed United Nations effort that could bring international gun control into the United States and slap America's gun owners with severe restrictions.
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whisp

  59. fedupinnyc says:

    Classified report: Russia tied to blast at U.S. embassy

    U.S. intelligence agencies concluded in a classified report late last year that Russia’s military intelligence was responsible for a bomb blast that occurred at an exterior wall of the U.S. Embassy in Tbilisi, Georgia, in September.
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/26/u

  60. Hobbes says:

    Time to bring down Holder for Fast and Furious (and maybe his boss!?) …. http://gunowners.org/a07282011.htm

    A sample letter to send to your representatives is included in link … We need to put the pressure on!!

  61. Hobbes says:

    Time to bring down Holder for Fast and Furious (and maybe his boss!?) …. http://gunowners.org/a07282011.htm

    A sample letter to send to your representatives is included in link … We need to put the pressure on!!

  62. Hobbes says:

    Time to bring down Holder for Fast and Furious (and maybe his boss!?) …. http://gunowners.org/a07282011.htm

    A sample letter to send to your representatives is included in link … We need to put the pressure on!!

  63. Hobbes says:

    Time to bring down Holder for Fast and Furious (and maybe his boss!?) …. http://gunowners.org/a07282011.htm

    A sample letter to send to your representatives is included in link … We need to put the pressure on!!

  64. Hobbes says:

    Time to bring down Holder for Fast and Furious (and maybe his boss!?) …. http://gunowners.org/a07282011.htm

    A sample letter to send to your representatives is included in link … We need to put the pressure on!!

  65. Hobbes says:

    Rush Limbaugh: "We've Been Played for Saps, Folks: Boehner Bill Will Become Reid Bill"…. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_07281
    July 28, 2011

  66. IdahoAnnie says:

    If you or your friends think that the Republic of the United States of America is dead. The REAL American people, WE THE PEOPLE are still alive and kickin' folks. And there are alot of us. And we are kickin' hard in all the right places. Keep up the good work Patriots!

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      You said it. On TV a couple of nights ago I heard that the Tea Party was dead because a couple of rallies were cancelled. Welllll, perhaps we have jobs to go to and crops to bring in and are not paid to be bused to a rally. We are strong and getting stronger for sure. My flag flies high and waves in the breeze, proudly.

  67. OldMarine says:

    SC GOV. NIKKI HALEY SAYS NO TO NAACP’S CALL TO REMOVE CONFEDERATE FLAG FROM CAPITOL

    South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley said she has no intention of removing the Confederate flag that flies beside the Statehouse, despite the head of the NAACP ( http://rebuildingfreedom.org/rebuilding-freedom-f… ) calling it a “contradiction” for Haley, an ethnic minority, to allow the flag to fly.

    NAACP President Benjamin Jealous called on Haley to remove the flag during an NAACP conference in Los Angeles on Monday, comparing African American slavery and segregation to the oppression Haley’s ancestors in India faced under British colonialism.

    “Perhaps one of the most perplexing examples of the contradictions in this moment in history is that Nikki Haley, South Carolina’s first governor of color, continues to fly the Confederate flag in front of her state’s Capitol,” Jealous said. “Given the similarities between our struggles to end slavery and segregation, and her ancestors’ struggle to end British colonialism and oppression in India, my question to Governor Haley is one that Dr. King often asked himself: What would Gandhi do?”

    Haley’s spokesman, Rob Godfrey, said the governor has no intention of renewing the flag debate, which has come under fire before from the NAACP and others who say the flag represents slavery and white supremacy.

    “More than a decade ago, under the leadership of a Democratic governor, South Carolinians — Republican and Democrat, black and white — came to a compromise position on the Confederate flag,” Godfrey said. “Many people were uncomfortable with that compromise, but it addressed a sensitive subject in a way that South Carolina as a whole could accept. We don’t expect people from outside the state to understand that dynamic, but revisiting that issue is not part of the governor’s agenda.

    According to South Carolina newspaper the State, the flag has flown on the north end of the Statehouse near a monument to Confederate soldiers since 2000. It was placed there as part of a legislative compromise to remove it from the Statehouse dome.

    Source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/south-carolina-go… (30 July, 2011)

    Finally a Gov. that stands up to the radicals that call themselves NAACP. Aftyer all, the Confederate Flag is as much a part of American history as the battle against slavery. It is part of the SOUTH's heritage, Why do we celebrate a month of Black History yet the people of the south can't fly a flag…..OM

  68. IdahoAnnie says:

    OMG !!!! California Borrows $5.4 Billion As Protection In Case U.S. Defaults http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/07/30/californi

    does this sound like some sort of CON on American Taxpayers………………..? I don't want my money going to save California's butt, when State is tightening it's belt. Do you?

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      What choice do we have concerning this issue Annie? Any bailout deal has already been cut with o, giethner and print the money bernamaneke. this really sucks.

  69. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Hobbes, yes we do, I agree and will send my letter in.

    • Hobbes says:

      Thanks, PE1. We must expose these criminals and the sooner the better before they do more damage. I've sent versions of the sample letter to all my Representatives, which includes Dickie Durbin. I wonder how fast his people, or him, if he reads them (which I doubt), will delete it. Ha, ha!! …. I think. :-(

      Wish I had a Fax machine because I read somewhere that they can't destroy Faxes, at least not when they are sent to their Congressional office. Not sure if that's right, but if it is, anyone with a Fax should be using it to send stuff to Representatives in Congress.

      • PatriotEagle1 says:

        Hobbes, Dot and I fax all the time. Faxes can be destroyed as easily as a letter can. Expose the truth, that is all we are doing and the truth will prevail. Boy oh boy, will these arrogant jerks fall hard.

        • Hobbes says:

          Shucks… I was hoping there was at least something that couldn't be destroyed… should have known better! Just part of that "Hope & Change" we keep hearing about, right! (?)

        • Hobbes says:

          Shucks… I was hoping there was at least something that couldn't be destroyed… should have known better! Just part of that "Hope & Change" we keep hearing about, right! (?)

          I can't wait to see a "perp" walk for them!

          • PatriotEagle1 says:

            Hobbes, when the underlings get the fear or confidence in the them, they will rat on the oval office cheese and the house of cards will fall and then we will have one heck of a mess to clean up but that is better then what o is doing to us.

        • Hobbes says:

          Shucks… I was hoping there was at least something that couldn't be destroyed… should have known better! Just part of that "Hope & Change" we keep hearing about, right! (?)

          I can't wait to see a "perk" walk for them!

      • PatriotEagle1 says:

        Hobbes, I just made a hard copy and will fax 50 copies out tomorrow.

        • Hobbes says:

          Thumbs up!

          • PatriotEagle1 says:

            hobbes, job done, just took an extra day. hope it helps get the word out.

            • Hobbes says:

              Doesn't matter when you did it, PE… just glad you did. (and good for you!) This will probably go on forever since the WH doesn't appear to be co-operating! But, I suppose, fearing being caught might slow them down a bit. Gotta have time to destroy evidence, find people to throw under the bus and stuff, right? Time doesn't bother me too much as long as they eventually bring them down! However, sooner than later would be much more enjoyable and beneficial for the Country!

              • PatriotEagle1 says:

                Amen to that Hobbes. gotta keep throwing paper and emails at them even if they do not read it all. Just need one aide to catch the fever and the issue takes off.

                • Hobbes says:

                  Yep. We can't take our eye off the ball. Although, it's hard for me to say that right now after the vote that was just taken in the House. I'm starting to get discouraged. I'm hearing Republicans thinking they have done something good because they started a "conversation about cutting costs". Whippy do! In the meantime they've given Obama trillions of our dollars to use as a slush fund for his next election.

                  • PatriotEagle1 says:

                    Hobbes, am I ever ticked off. Allen West and my new conservative rep both voted for it. WRONG. Boehner sold out. How many times can we go back to the drawing board? Now much time left and you are correct. O gets the money to play election year politics and buy his way into his goal, a full blown dictatorship.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      Certainly makes you rethink who is real and who isn't doesn't it? :-(

                      Oh, and believe me, I will NEVER believe anything Boehner says again! I just wish I lived in his district, so I could vote against him.

                    • PatriotEagle1 says:

                      Hobbes, nope, boehner is off my list, we now know how he operates, am watching Issa, DeMint, West, and such. Working on who will replace Debbie Stabenow here in MI for US Senate. She has gotta go. List of who is on our team is pretty small. Need lots more of them next election. Repubs gave the house away and us with it. They had the power and let is slip away.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      Here in Illinois (believe it or not) we have 2 Congressman, I 'mpretty sure we can count on. Tim Johnson from the southern part of our state and Joe Walsh. The Dems have done some redistricting here (although it's going to court) and if they get their way I will be able to vote for Joe next time. Unless, "they"get to him and he does a complete turnaround, I'll definitely vote for him. Right now there are paid Obama demonstrators organizing at Joe's headquarters here. They are complaining about his votes. I wonder how many of the demonstrators just crossed the border from Wisconsin? Don't think I have to wonder too much! The Chicago Sun-Times last week also did a hit job on Joe. Some whimpy reporter snooped into his divorce records and found some issues about child support. Joe's response was that it was lies and that it was a several month old issue that is currently being dealt with in the courts. He also questioned the timing of the article. It came out right in the middle of the debt debate. More Obama dirty tricks and the Chicago way of trying to stop the opposition.

                    • topshot says:

                      You might also consider Adam Kinzinger Hobbes, he could also be a young up and comer. Just a thought.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      Hey Topshot! Adam's ok. I've heard him on the radio recently and he does say some of the right stuff, but, I'm afraid he's a bit naive. He tends to use a lot of the current cliches … "kicking the can down the road", referring to us being on the Titanic, the Republicans have only the House, etc. And, he did vote yes both times with his explanation being the same as Boehner's: it's the best deal we can get. I'm not ready to rule him out, but, I'm keeping a sharp eye on him as all the others. Maybe after he gets a little experience under his belt he won't be so intimidated by the Leaders. By the way, did you hear Kirk's reason for voting for it? If not, he said he voted yes because the far left and right were against it. So, it was a perfect position for a moderate. Moderate, my eye, RINO's more like it.

                      Lord save us from the Moderates!

                    • PatriotEagle1 says:

                      Hobbes, with the gagillions in stimulus money hidden away, we will see the nastiest politics ever with many paid to protest, lawyers ready to defend the bad guys, holder watching everyone's backs and the paid for media and attorneys general ready to look the other way. Really stinks.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      You sure are right, PE. Fasten your seat belt it's gonna be a very bumpy ride!

                    • PatriotEagle1 says:

                      Hobbes, bumpy ride it will be with us screaming foul at every turn and hopefully someone will hear us (and give a damn) outside of our own circles.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      That's why we gotta hope this "Fast and Furious" crime gets some traction. We need some media focus on this. When it first came up there was a bit but nothing wide spread headline breaking. (If it was a Republican Admin., it would be the headliner everyday … which no matter whose party it is, it should be). But, now you gotta go digging or be a member of a gun owner's website to find any news on it. Should Holder lose his job because of this, you know the replacement (if Obama doesn't get implicated) will be just as bad or worse. But… and this could be a big "but"… perhaps enough attention will be brought to that position that any voter fraud that's not dealt with properly (like the New Black Panthers) will result in some people, not in our circles, paying attention to Obama and his corruption. Probably wishful thinking on my part.

                    • PatriotEagle1 says:

                      hobbes, getting skinny in here. may have to turn sideways to get in what I want to say. I will just keep it short, like o's weenie. I think holder has to go no matter what and we will deal with who comes next, next. fast and furous has legs and the media can do what they please but they cannot wash it or wish it away. It is now up to Issa to be the man and get it done correctly and swiftly with congressional mandates and punishments.

                    • Hobbes says:

                      ROFL! Yep, let's hope Issa keeps it rolling. See you on another thread. :-)

  70. IdahoAnnie says:

    Crunching Numbers: Americans Take Deficit Crisis Into Own Hands. After looking at possible tax increases, subsidies and entitlement, the group came up with $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction.

    And it only took an hour.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Economy/crunching-

    Thanks to DHR on 912wolverines.com the growl

  71. Luis522 says:

    Our HOUSE Of Cards
    In Nov of 2010, the American citizens spoke in a strong and single voice, and did their duty. We turned the tide not only in our State governments, but in our House of Representatives, as well.
    Our voices YELLED from the mountains . . .To the ocean:
    NO MORE!!!

    NO MORE behind-closed-door meetings and/or dea'ings on ANY legislation! This is The People's government; and this govt runs under a Nation of Laws, and not men!
    WE HAVE THE "RIGHT" TO KNOW, AND TO HEAR, OF "ALL" LEGISLATION THAT PASSES THROUGH "OUR" HOUSES!

    The People said, "NO MORE!!!" to showing favor, and appeasemenr, towards our enemies by giving deadly-hostile nations, the unions, the banks, the hyper-partisan community organizations and "non profit" media/press, Fann/Fredd, etc, anymore of the TAXPAYER'S (now nonexistent) treasure!

    We NO LONGER have a "Treasure" – as we knew it! We only have a PRINTING PRESS! Our "collateral" are BUNDLES of DEBT!

    My vote said, "NO MORE!!!" to unsustainable SPENDING that is not authorized by our CONSTITUTION!
    "NO MORE!!!" To the LIES and DECEPTIONS!
    "NO MORE!!!" trampling and BURYING our LAWS, OPPRESSION and SUPPRESSION of our INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, or the slow destruction of American industry and/or private-based services through UNCONSTITUTIONAL legislations and/or strangling government regulations!

    NO MORE borrowing to raise the Debt Ceiling — and continued SPENDING!
    NO MORE tax hikes under a hostile government, and a border-line collapsing economy!

    We The People used our voices, and our votes, to help SAVE the future of our economy; our currency; our very sovereignty!

    That was OUR MESSAGE way back — only 9 mos, and ANOTHER $2.5T, ago!
    And WHAT have the majority of our Reps given its constituents, and the Nation, in return?
    N–O–T–H–I–N–G ! ! !

    God Bless America
    - Luis522

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      Luis, thank you for those words of heart felt honest feelings which echo my thoughts. We have been betrayed and will not stand by and watch the country go further into the hole. this craziness must stop. it is time to make a louder message. I will write something and post it here.

  72. Hobbes says:

    Ok, all you Tea Party "terrorists" and "addicts", here's a new distinction for us. We are now delusional and being compared to the Norway murderer. Here's the exchange between Martin Bashir and an alleged psychology "authority" named Stanton Peele. It's hard to decide which is more entertaining – common language like "cannibals" and "vampires" or the assaults in "clinical" language. I suppose Obama prefers the latter although his core constituency would have difficulty with either one.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/msnbc-host-gu

  73. fedupinnyc says:

    Iran Revolutionary Guard Commander Becomes New President of OPEC

    The Guardian is reporting that Rostam Ghasemi, who on Wednesday became Iran’s oil minister, is now the new head of OPEC. But not only is he from the U.S.-hating Iran, he’s also been sanctioned by the U.S., the E.U. and Australia and has his assets blacklisted
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/iran-revolutionar

  74. fedupinnyc says:

    Iran Revolutionary Guard Commander Becomes New President of OPEC

    The Guardian is reporting that Rostam Ghasemi, who on Wednesday became Iran’s oil minister, is now the new head of OPEC. But not only is he from the U.S.-hating Iran, he’s also been sanctioned by the U.S., the E.U. and Australia and has his assets blacklisted
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/iran-revolutionar

  75. Luis522 says:

    Poll: Thumbs down on the debt-ceiling deal
    WASHINGTON — The hard-won, last-minute agreement to raise the debt ceiling and cut the deficit gets low ratings from Americans, who by more than 2-1 predict it will make the nation's fragile economy worse rather than better.
    ' In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken hours after the Senate passed and President Obama signed the deal, 46% disapprove of the agreement; 39% approve. Only one in five see it as a step forward in addressing the federal debt.

    None of the policymakers involved gets high ratings for their role, although Obama's standing is the least bad: 41% approve, 49% disapprove. '

    (That's only because Obama's "recorded" positions on EVERY ISSUE has ALWAYS been to vote "present".
    This goes back to his short "gig" in the Senate. Which is why I only refer to him as the "PRESENT"-OTUS.
    He has completely dishonored the Office — as much as our Reps have, as well.

    For the first time since its founding, the American citizen has practically no representation in their – the People's – government.

    CONGRATULATIONS to the District of Columbia. We are fatally divided as a people, and our economy and respect around the globe has been destroyed!
    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! )
    }:-\
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-08-0

  76. gladimamerican says:

    Happy freaking birthday boo, you are well on your way to destroying the country! 2012 can't get here soon enough, we will have a huge mess to clean up, and you will be held accountable!

  77. ebarnes says:

    So glad they passed that debt ceiling so they could spend almost all of it in ONE DAY!!! So, tomorrow will we need to vote on a new one again? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/3/us

  78. ebarnes says:

    So glad they passed that debt ceiling so they could spend almost all of it in ONE DAY!!! So, tomorrow will we need to vote on a new one again? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/3/us

  79. ebarnes says:

    So glad they passed that debt ceiling so they could spend almost all of it in ONE DAY!!! So, tomorrow will we need to vote on a new one again? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/3/us

  80. ebarnes says:

    So glad they passed that debt ceiling so they could spend almost all of it in ONE DAY!!! So, tomorrow will we need to vote on a new one again? http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/3/us

  81. Aearlath says:

    I purposely stay away from all news for a few days and when I finally check again…. the whole stupid planet is going nuts. (Well, nuttier than it is normally…)

    No real point to this post. I'd just like to send positive thoughts, prayers, and anything else I can send to everyone out there! Hold the line and stay true. This too shall pass… :D

  82. Luis522 says:

    Straight From The Jackasses Mouthes
    JackAss #1: John Kerry
    John Kerry has waded into the media waters and now wants the news to cut out conservatives he doesn’t agree with.
    During a discussion of the debt deal and the economy on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Friday, the current Massachusetts senator and former presidential candidate lambasted the Tea Party and conservatives and the idea that they should be given “equal time” in the media. According to him, their ideas are so whacky that they don’t deserve air time:
    “And I have to tell you, I say this to you politely. The media in America has a bigger responsibility than it’s exercising today. The media has got to begin to not give equal time or equal balance to an absolutely absurd notion just because somebody asserts it or simply because somebody says something which everybody knows is not factual.
    “It doesn’t deserve the same credit as a legitimate idea about what you do. And the problem is everything is put into this tit-for-tat equal battle and America is losing any sense of what’s real, of who’s accountable, of who is not accountable, of who’s real, who isn’t, who’s serious, who isn’t?”

    (See video) http://www.theblaze.com/stories/john-kerry-media-….

    Aw, poor poor John Kerry! Is this why you have the loooong orange-glo face?! We just WON'T OBEY the Ds, and RINOs, and just shut the eff up, huh?!
    WE WON'T, either!

    JackAss #2: Nancy Pelosi
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D- Cal) unleashed all the House Minority Leader fury she could muster against Republicans yesterday.
    The former Speaker of the House spoke to the liberal Think Progress, and shared her assessment that the debt ceiling fight for conservatives has nothing to do with the debt.
    Summarizing her views on Republicans who believe a $13 trillion deficit is something to be concerned about, Pelosi said:
    “It is about destroying government — federal involvement in education. It’s about lean air, clean water, food safety, public safety. You name it, they’re there to diminish it. Destroy it.” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nancy-pelosi-repu….
    Ohhh Nancy…. Nancy… Nancy… You're still hurtin' about NOT OWNING THE GAVEL, anymore, and having your GE turbine-blown face all over the cameras, aren'tcha?!

    JackAss #3: Barack Obama:
    During his TAXPAYER PAID FOR birthday super bash, the "Present"-OTUS, Barack Insane Obama, said this:
    "When I said, 'Change you can believe in,' I didn't mean, change you can believe in tomorrow, or next week,"
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-clarifies-i….
    So, what'll you say next to spin this economic meltdown?! How ELSE could you possibly explain away ALL of your BROKEN PROMISES?! Let me guess . . .
    "Yeah, but, let me make something perfectly clear, I didn't cross-my-heart and hope-to-die!".

    The TPM, according to ALL of you, are the terrorists and racists!

    Maybe ALL OF YOU wish that ALL OF US would die! Yeah… I really do think that's accurate!

  83. Luis522 says:

    Straight From The Jackasses Mouthes
    JackAss #1: John Kerry
    John Kerry has waded into the media waters and now wants the news to cut out conservatives he doesn’t agree with.
    During a discussion of the debt deal and the economy on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Friday, the current Massachusetts senator and former presidential candidate lambasted the Tea Party and conservatives and the idea that they should be given “equal time” in the media. According to him, their ideas are so whacky that they don’t deserve air time:
    “And I have to tell you, I say this to you politely. The media in America has a bigger responsibility than it’s exercising today. The media has got to begin to not give equal time or equal balance to an absolutely absurd notion just because somebody asserts it or simply because somebody says something which everybody knows is not factual.
    “It doesn’t deserve the same credit as a legitimate idea about what you do. And the problem is everything is put into this tit-for-tat equal battle and America is losing any sense of what’s real, of who’s accountable, of who is not accountable, of who’s real, who isn’t, who’s serious, who isn’t?”

    (See video) http://www.theblaze.com/stories/john-kerry-media-….

    Aw, poor poor John Kerry! Is this why you have the loooong orange-glo face?! We just WON'T OBEY the Ds, and RINOs, and just shut the eff up, huh?!
    WE WON'T, either!

    JackAss #2: Nancy Pelosi
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D- Cal) unleashed all the House Minority Leader fury she could muster against Republicans yesterday.
    The former Speaker of the House spoke to the liberal Think Progress, and shared her assessment that the debt ceiling fight for conservatives has nothing to do with the debt.
    Summarizing her views on Republicans who believe a $13 trillion deficit is something to be concerned about, Pelosi said:
    “It is about destroying government — federal involvement in education. It’s about lean air, clean water, food safety, public safety. You name it, they’re there to diminish it. Destroy it.” http://www.theblaze.com/stories/nancy-pelosi-repu….
    Ohhh Nancy…. Nancy… Nancy… You're still hurtin' about NOT OWNING THE GAVEL, anymore, and having your GE turbine-blown face all over the cameras, aren'tcha?!

    JackAss #3: Barack Obama:
    During his TAXPAYER PAID FOR birthday super bash, the "Present"-OTUS, Barack Insane Obama, said this:
    "When I said, 'Change you can believe in,' I didn't mean, change you can believe in tomorrow, or next week,"
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-clarifies-i….
    So, what'll you say next to spin this economic meltdown?! How ELSE could you possibly explain away ALL of your BROKEN PROMISES?! Let me guess . . .
    "Yeah, but, let me make something perfectly clear, I didn't cross-my-heart and hope-to-die!".

    The TPM, according to ALL of you, are the terrorists and racists!

    Maybe ALL OF YOU wish that ALL OF US would die! Yeah… I really do think that's accurate!

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      Luis, good post. yep, their world would be much nicer if we did not exist. oh well, they better just get used to it.

      • OldMarine says:

        The ground work is being laid, look for the stealth attempt of the fairness doctrine with net neurality to raise its ugly head.

        • PatriotEagle1 says:

          OM, as the ugly head pops up, we must cut it off at the base and go after the roots. We must not stop our efforts to stop their efforts.

  84. Hobbes says:

    Gun owners beware of the Super Congress. Since the Super Congress can include anything in their legislation, they could include gun control. Gun Owners of America have spelled it out quite clearly here: http://gunowners.org/a08052011.htm

  85. OldMarine says:

    It has started, check this post at http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/08/05/mobs-of-b… .
    Is the American Fall far behind?

  86. OldMarine says:

    It has started, check this post at http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/08/05/mobs-of-b… .
    Is the American Fall far behind?

    • olnavyboy says:

      Yes, this whole series of events looks bad. And I can hardly view it as a coincidence.

      • OldMarine says:

        Olnavyboy,
        I quit believing in coincidences many years ago. My personal feelings is that this may be another beginning skirmish, another probing action if you will, there has been smaller ones in Chicago, and most likely other cities, that "we" haven't seen or heard about.
        Strange thing, Glenn played the radio / T.V. report about this (may I add, that we had this on site before anyone else reported it), anyway the reporter DID NOT even mention that the gang(s) were black, are they trying to prevent a bias or just don't want the American citizens to know that trouble maybe coming? Just as how often has a scandal involving a Democrat been reported and either the party, democrat, NOT been mentioned or mentioned towards the end of the piece.
        Now, think about this, these skirmishes, the black flash mobs robbing stores, roving bands of blacks attacking whites, the prominently black SEIU/ACORN/Project Vote ( http://rebuildingfreedom.org/rebuilding-freedom-f… ) could be a way of saying, either continue our "free" stuff and re elect Obama or we will take to the streets.
        I fully realize that this may sound racist, maybe even conspiratorial, but considering everything that has gone on in the past 2+ years, It makes sense for a take over of the American way of life and the CHANGE in America that BH0 promised.

      • OldMarine says:

        Olnavyboy,
        I quit believing in coincidences many years ago. My personal feelings is that this may be another beginning skirmish, another probing action if you will, there has been smaller ones in Chicago, and most likely other cities, that "we" haven't seen or heard about.
        Strange thing, Glenn played the radio / T.V. report about this (may I add, that we had this on site before anyone else reported it), anyway the reporter DID NOT even mention that the gang(s) were black, are they trying to prevent a bias or just don't want the American citizens to know that trouble maybe coming? Just as how often has a scandal involving a Democrat been reported and either the party, democrat, NOT been mentioned or mentioned towards the end of the piece.
        Now, think about this, these skirmishes, the black flash mobs robbing stores, roving bands of blacks attacking whites, the prominently black SEIU/ACORN/Project Vote ( http://rebuildingfreedom.org/rebuilding-freedom-f… ) could be a way of saying, either continue our "free" stuff and re elect Obama or we will take to the streets.
        I fully realize that this may sound racist, maybe even conspiratorial, but considering everything that has gone on in the past 2+ years, It makes sense for a take over of the American way of life and the CHANGE in America that BH0 promised.

    • Goober says:

      You and many of us (Bubba and I included) have been wondering how they have managed to keep this at bay as long as they have. Do you not wonder no if they will find some rabbit to pull out of the hat to get just enough confusion going to distract?? If so, what do you suppose it will be this time! The fact is, this abyss has been looming in front of us all for some time now and they just keep managing to put enough reverse thrust on the engines to keep us pretty close tpo the same depth etc.. Just now we have gotten the part where Scotty says.." Capn, I She's given er all shes got" and we are sitting ducks!

      • OldMarine says:

        Goober,
        As I mentioned in my reply to Olnavyboy, this has been going on for a while, and I feel that these are just beginning probes, to see what the people / law enforcement will do. Notice, that most of these incidences are taking place in areas where gun laws prevent the carrying of weapons, IL & WI (although WI has just passed Conceal Carry). Can anyone imagine what would happen if WI had its Conceal Carry law in place, and this gang started harassing a Marine and his family, and he was carrying? I wonder how soon the "gang" would have dispersed.

    • OldMarine says:

      Goober and Olnavyboy,
      Check the post in WUA http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/08/07/sweet-sco… which basically reinforces what I have said earlier.
      Olnavyboy, again thank you.

  87. fedupinnyc says:

    The Ulsterman Report: DEA Pointing Gunrunner Blame Toward Eric Holder?

    With the economy still front and center among the minds of both news outlets and the American public, the Gunrunner scandal took a temporary backseat in recent weeks. Not anymore. Media reports are now circulating of an admittance by DEA administrator Michele M. Leonhart that her organization played a supporting role in the deadly and failed Operation Gunrunner that has resulted in the death of federal agents on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border.
    http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ul

  88. 596SignalCo says:

    Who made a billion dollars on 10/1 bet that U.S. credit rating would be downgraded?

    Take a guess…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023809/D

  89. PatriotEagle1 says:

    OM, then that is what we must do. We should figure out a good letter and send it to all our reps and demand that they challenge o's eo's. I do not think any of o's eo's have ever been challenged. Am I correct on this? With you, me, Ron Politics, Robin and Dot on board, we can get the word out fast on this idea.

  90. Luis522 says:

    Here's a REAL Tea Party downgrade for ya . . .

    To the Dems, the cowardly and appeasing RINOs, and Present BOzo himself
    I give you ALL several grades based on MY ratings scale.

    You all get a "QUADRUPLE A" for deception, corruption, and self service. You are EXPERTS at destroying our economy; our safety; our propserity, and our respect around the world.

    You are the masters of making America a laughing stock; and becoming easy prey for REAL TERRORISTS! You know . . . The ones you go out of your way NOT to label them for what they are!
    Which reminds me . . . You also get a "quadruple A" in hypocrisy!

    As far as having honor for your country; keeping your Oath of Office, and truly representing your CONSTITUENTS – I give you an "F -Infinity".

    Only from the inside could our Nation be made so thoroughly divided socially; and demolished economically!

    Barack Insane Obama, you are a true America-hating liberal (socialist)!
    You are ALL champions of oppression and despair; and TRAITORS of the American Republic!

    But, WE SHALL OVERCOME!!!
    God Bless America
    - Luis522

  91. Hobbes says:

    Obama has important work to do. You might think after today's stock market fall it's the country's economy, but, no. Fund raising…that's his main focus and his joy. He's good at that, but, nothing else! http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/08/o

  92. Hobbes says:

    I read that too, Fed. Life is SO hard for them, I'm sure she and the children need a rest. And, who are we to deny MichelleMyButt visiting time with her relatives? /sarc.

    I guess, we should be grateful that this time she's not spending our money out of the country. Blah!!

  93. fedupinnyc says:

    Wow, I finally got this site to load.

  94. Luis522 says:

    Will The CBC Stay With Obama — Just because he's black?
    Shallow Waters
    "This Liberal will be about socializing . . .Basically taking over; and the government running all of your companies" – Maxine Waters

    The cat's out of the bag. The ONLY THING that Obama has accomplished is to raise the jobless rate and the extensions; and the number of welfare recipients. Not to mention the ruin of the American economy; and our AAA rating.

    If that's not enough, the commie-and-chief has EVERY INTENTION to SPEND EVEN MORE BORROWED MONEY!

    So many BROKEN promises . . .

    Well, it may have finally awaken the Black Caucus – lead by the socialist queen herself,
    Maxine Waters.
    ' U.S. House Rep. Maxine Waters is asking black voters who are struggling with an unemployment rate nearly twice the national average to "unleash" her and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus on President Obama.

    The California Democrat, speaking at a raucous town hall in Detroit hosted by the CBC on Tuesday, said she doesn't want to attack the president from his base unless the base gives her the go-ahead.

    "If we go after the president too hard, you're going after us," Waters said. "When you tell us it's all right and you unleash us and you're ready to have this conversation, we're ready to have the conversation." ' http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/17/rep-wa….

    You could actually hear the Detroit crowd yelling in the background "Yeah, we're ready!"

    But, are they?! Lets not forget that it was right there, in Detroit, that a voter made a shameful spectical of herself by loudly and proudly saying thatt she was going to get her "Obama money!".

    The question is will the CBC actually hold Obama accountable, or will they stick with the "black man"?

    That would be like me being loyal to former member of the HARD communist group – La Raza, Juustice Sotomayor — just because she's Puerto Rican.
    It would be PLAIN STUPID!

    • fedupinnyc says:

      It would be nice to see them turn on him but my gut says they'll still vote for the black man.

      • PatriotEagle1 says:

        fed, yep, way it is. he is one of their own, right or left, they back their man, right or wrong, does not matter, you are either with him or prejudice, I guess. color me confused.

  95. OldMarine says:

    WORLDS LARGEST ARMY

    True story and most people will never know it.

    Here's an interesting side bar. After the Japanese decimated our fleet at in Pearl Harbor Dec 7, 1941, they could have sent their troop ships and carriers directly to California to finish what they started. The
    prediction from our Chief of Staff was we would not be able to stop a massive invasion until they reached the Mississippi River . Remember, we had a 2 million man army and war ships…..all fighting the Germans. So, why did they not invade?

    After the war, the remaining Japanese generals and admirals were asked that question. Their answer…..they know that almost every home had guns and the Americans knew how to use them.

    The world's largest army… America 's hunters! I had never thought about this…. A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking conclusion:

    There were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin .

    Allow me to restate that number.

    Over the last several months, Wisconsin 's hunters became the eighth largest army in the world.

    More men under arms than in Iran ..

    More than in France and Germany combined.

    These men deployed to the woods of a single American state to hunt with firearms, and no one was killed. AND That number pales in comparison to the 750,000 who hunted the woods of Pennsylvania and Michigan 's 700,000 hunters, All of whom have now returned home.

    Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact that The hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.

    The point?

    America will forever be safe from foreign invasion with that kind of home-grown firepower. (EXCEPT from within, using the "greed" of some)

    Hunting — it's not just a way to fill the freezer.
    Hunting is a matter of national security.

    *************************************************
    That's why all enemies, Foreign and Domestic, want to see us disarmed.
    Food for thought when we consider gun control.

    Received in an email from a friend in……Canada.

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      OM, and that is the very core of our strength, the US citizen who has the right to protect his or her own. This current admin better be very careful. The guns they try to take from us will be well hidden at deer and bear camps. The American that obama is trying to hurt will only stand for so much and then a stand will be taken.

    • RageforOrder says:

      And that is one of the many reasons why it is so ridiculous to have all these foreign interventions in the name of national defense.

  96. IdahoAnnie says:

    well fellow gangstas, we here at RebuildingFreedom.org are back in business. The site is repaired and is much speedier now. Give it a try and bring your friends.

  97. PatriotEagle1 says:

    OM, I see. They have this very long range plan and have the time and money for it to unfold. I expect exec orders and not congress to be the manner in which this is attempted. When will our elected conservative officials take a collective stand and fight back? This UN stuff is ridiculous and scarey.

  98. PatriotEagle1 says:

    OM, yeah but, yeah but, if congress is worthless and o can make laws via exec orders, short of a revolution, what can stop his machine from running the country over. billary is just as bad if not worse. this bunch of thieves are running away with the prize. you mean my daily emails to congress and the prez are not making on bit of difference? Sarcasm in large doses here. Time for a change, for sure.

  99. OldMarine says:

    Don't Dial DOJ for Voter Fraud Protection

    If you thought the U.S. Justice Department under Attorney General Eric Holder was already shockingly biased toward far-left causes, get ready for a more permanent problem.

    As Hans A. von Spakovsky has outlined in the first of five articles for Pajamas Media about DOJ's Civil Rights Division, Holder has hired 16 civil service employees — not political appointees — in the Voting Rights Section. This means they will be part of the permanent bureaucracy.

    It's part of an overall trend of loading the Civil Rights Division with card-carrying leftists despite Holder's promise to hire qualified people regardless of ideology.

    All of the new hires have radical backgrounds, including several with the ACLU displayed prominently on their resumes. Some specifically oppose measures to curb voter fraud, such as requiring photo I.D.s. Since no conservatives have been hired, Mr. von Spakovsky aptly titled his article "Every Single One: The Politicized Hiring of Eric Holder's Voting Section." http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/every-single-one-the

    The information was released only after Pajamas Media prevailed in a lawsuit after their Freedom of Information Act request was ignored. What gall, trying to find out who is on the public payroll.

    With the 2012 national elections looming, Americans concerned about voter fraud should be nervous about the prime federal enforcer of voting integrity being salted with left-wing partisans.

    In May 2009, Holder quashed the case against three New Black Panthers who had been caught on tape openly intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling station in 2008. Honest career attorneys at DOJ had obtained convictions, but Holder dismissed the charges.

    And, as former DOJ Voting Rights Section attorney J. Christian Adams has revealed, the Division's lawyers have been told, in effect, to ignore discrimination complaints from white citizens. Testifying on July 6, 2010 before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, Mr. Adams said that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Julie Fernandes announced that "the Voting Section will not bring any other cases against blacks and other minorities."

    This is before all the new appointees even got settled into their offices.

    Here are a few of the new hires, as summarized by Mr. von Spakovsky:

    Bryan Sells: Mr. Sells was recently hired as one of the Voting Section's new deputy chiefs. He comes to the Department from the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, where he worked for nearly 10 years as a Senior Staff Counsel. During his tenure, his organization strongly opposed all voter ID laws, and challenged the right of states to verify the U.S. citizenship of individuals seeking to register to vote. He also characterized state felon disenfranchisement laws – which are expressly authorized in the Constitution – as a "slap in the face to democracy," and consistently took the most aggressive (and generally legally unsupportable) positions on redistricting cases throughout the country.
    Meredith Bell-Platts: The other new deputy chief hired by the Voting Section, Meredith Bell-Platts, also comes from the ACLU's Voting Rights Project, where she, too, spent nearly 10 years. Much of her time there was devoted to blasting voter ID requirements, which she claimed were motivated by people who do not want to see blacks vote (an issue on which she consistently lost in court). Before arriving at the ACLU, Ms. Bell-Platts was a founding member of the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law, a publication whose stated "mission is to explore the impact of gender, sexuality, and race on both the theory and practice of law" and thereby "complement a long tradition of feminist scholarship and advocacy at the [Georgetown] Law Center."

    Daniel Freeman: Mr. Freeman comes to the Voting Section following a fellowship at the New York Civil Liberties Union. He previously interned at the ACLU, where he assisted the organization with its efforts to attack the Bush administration's national security policies. He also helped to challenge the "state secrets privilege" and to support the rights of terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay during an internship at Human Rights First….

    Incidentally, Mr. Freeman is helping lead the Voting Section's review of redistricting submissions from the state of Alabama.

    You get the idea. There are 13 more career appointments, all of whom could garner puff pieces in the Daily Kos. Mr. von Spakovsky notes that while the media castigated the Bush Administration for appointing some attorneys with conservative backgrounds, the media have been silent over this far more egregious politicizing of a sensitive federal office.

    He suggests that these and other Obama appointments have been so blatantly political that the DOJ's Inspector General should conduct an inquiry.

    Somebody should. The media certainly are not going to raise these questions absent something too obvious to ignore. And even then….

    Robert Knight is a Senior Fellow at the American Civil Rights Union.
    Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/08/dont_
    (19 August, 2011)

  100. Hobbes says:

    Just the beginning of Obamacare and the influence of Ezekiel Emanuel:
    http://articles.boston.com/2011-08-17/lifestyle/2

  101. right2beararms says:

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pag

    I'm sure most have read/heard this …
    It was so exciting to be at that Tea Party Mtg Weds nite and hear Dr Corsi outline this plan to keep o from being put on the Ballot in AZ! We are keeping Sheriff Arpaio in our prayers, that is for sure!

  102. right2beararms says:

    AMEN!!!! to all you said here

    • OldMarine says:

      Right2,Thank you and after re reading the last statement “People have to stop and think, is it better to do something that is good for a few or good for all?” It should have read “People have to stop and think, is it better to do something that is good for a few or what is BEST for all?

  103. PatriotEagle1 says:

    OM, I agree with what you say about foreign involvements

  104. RageforOrder says:

    "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none."Thomas Jefferson
    I think we stay out of all foreign entanglements and that includes alliances with foreign countries.Why should I care if Israel is invaded? Why am I forced to send money to them or any other nation through taxation? Ain't that just another form of welfare? We are so broke,yet we spend trillions overseas.It just doesn't make sense.Is it just to force our brave soldiers, who swore an oath to protect this country, to fight and die for another nation.We don't need other nations to provide for our defense and it is plain wrong to put another countries' interest above our own.

  105. RageforOrder says:

    Sorry,I agree with RP on foreign policy and hell yes we should bring our military home.I still don't understand why the govt can take my hard earned money and give it to some person in Japan in the form a humanitarian mission or whatever.I would probably give them money if they asked for a donation……but mandating it borders on tyranny.We have plenty of humanitarian issues here at home.Until our country is out of debt , out of wars and there are no illegals coming across our border it is wrong to give the taxpayers money to some other nation.Hell it is wrong even if we had a perfect country.I don't know if I can ever understand the neocon view of the world……..all it does is put us deeper into debt and spread hatred of America across the world.I don't any benefits that are worth the cost.

  106. fedupinnyc says:

    FCC finally kills off fairness doctrine

    The FCC gave the coup de grace to the fairness doctrine Monday as the commission axed more than 80 media industry rules.

    Earlier this summer FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski agreed to erase the post WWII-era rule, but the action Monday puts the last nail into the coffin for the regulation that sought to ensure discussion over the airwaves of controversial issues did not exclude any particular point of view. A broadcaster that violated the rule risked losing its license.
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61851.h

  107. Luis522 says:

    Polluted Waters

    Maxine Waters is drowning in her own hatred. She has publically sent the TPM "to hell".

    Come out of the swamp and smell the sulfur, Maxie! We've been in hell simce the Dems took charge in 2006; and the RINOs started kissing their SWAMP-A$$ES!

    You're singing ONLY to your choir; and you're starting to lose a lot of them (as you've oroven in Detroit with the CBC! )

    I'm just thankful that I'm not that mic you held — getting scorched and contaminated by your nasty-hot breath and spittle!
    Love,
    Luis522
    8-D

  108. Luis522 says:

    Marco Rubio for VP?!

    Though I doubt that he would accept this impotent position, I say NO!

    Senator Rubio will be a force in tthe Senate after the 2012 election. And, though he is presently a junior-Senator, his record in Florida's State Legislature already makes him MUCH MORE QUALIFIED than BO ,as it is!

    The VP slot would be a complete WASTE of his abilities to help his State and the American Republic.
    To constrain Sen Rubio to "serve at the pleasure" of Mitt Rmney would ONLY PLEASE the RINO-estalishment; and continue with the Progressive agenda of Big Government; GALACTIC spending; and the continued CAN-KICKING of the PROBLEMS we have with our UNSUSTAINABLE fiscal and social programs.

    "We DON'T NEED more TAXES! We NEED more tax-PAYERS!" Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)

    Say "NO" to Marco Rubio for the 2012 ticket!

  109. Hobbes says:

    Gee, have you ever heard Obama speak so highly of America? Me thinks this shows exactly where his allegiances are. Better watch this quick because I'm sure this video will "disappear" soon. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#….

  110. Hobbes says:

    This is EXACTLY what needs to be said. This should be sent to EVERY Republican candidate. http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/articl

  111. Hobbes says:

    It's being reported that Warren Buffett has bought billions in Bank of America today. Which has resulted in a spike in the BOA stock price. Then I see this article…. Hmmm? http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/buffett_obama_pig

  112. Hobbes says:

    It's being reported that Warren Buffett has bought billions in Bank of America today. Which has resulted in a spike in the BOA stock price. Then I see this article…. Hmmm? http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/buffett_obama_pig

  113. PatriotEagle1 says:

    When will all the freshmen congressional members take up issues that they campaigned on? Time is ripe for each and every one of them to make a really big deal about something they are passionate about. This could form a tidal wave of public support and hit the o admin with a nonstop avalanche of issues they have to defend publicly. I will be writing mine today to see what he is doing for us. How about you?

  114. OldMarine says:

    FEC Drafts Opinions for Guyana-Born Man About Presidential Run

    The Federal Election Commission is showing signs that it might allow a Guyana-born American citizen to file papers and raise money to run for president of the United States.
    The agency released two draft advisory opinions Friday that could permit New York lawyer Abdul Hassan to go through the initial steps to run for president. But the FEC’s pending decision won’t be the last word on the constitutional issue of whether someone born outside the United States can be president.
    Hassan was born in the South American country in 1974, and he asked the FEC in July whether he could raise funds as a candidate for president.
    The request put the FEC in the rare role of deciding a large constitutional issue that has only a few intersections with campaign finance law. The two commonly held constitutional requirements to run for president are that the candidate be 35 years or older and be a “natural born citizen.”
    The agency quickly signaled that it would decide the technicalities of filing requirements while leaving the broader issue of who can run for president to the judicial branch. In an email to Hassan on July 18, the FEC stated that he understood “that although the Commission can respond to the questions asked in [his] advisory opinion, the Commission cannot make any determination as to whether [Hassan] can, as a naturalized citizen, serve as President.”
    Both advisory opinions answer three of Hassan’s four questions in a similar way. They state that Hassan could be a candidate, may solicit funds and would be required to file disclosure reports. But the two opinions differ on whether he may receive federal matching funds.
    The first draft states that Hassan would not be allowed to receive matching funds because “the United States Constitution provides that ‘[n]o Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.’”
    The second draft ducks the issue, stating that the “Commission expresses no opinion regarding this question” because it is a “hypothetical.”
    The FEC is slated to discuss and possibly vote on the draft opinions at an open meeting Thursday. Four of the six commissioners must support an opinion for it to be approved.
    Hassan told Roll Call that he has almost no political background but is a “political junkie” with various legislative ideas.
    “I follow politics closely, but I have never held elected office,” he said. “I would admit that I am not well-known, and I would admit that my chances of winning are not as good as other candidates. That’s obvious.”
    Although Hassan said he sees the far-reaching implications of his FEC request for future candidates, he said he did not make his request as a response to long-refuted claims that President Barack Obama was not born in America.
    “I wasn’t even thinking about the birthers, though I am ideologically opposed to people on the birther side of the argument,” he said.

    Source: http://www.rollcall.com/news/fec_drafts_opinions_

  115. Hobbes says:

    This is a bit disconcerting to say the least:
    http://conservativebyte.com/2011/08/underpubliciz

  116. Hobbes says:

    The WH sets guidelines as to how 9/11 should be observed. "It's not just about us". The attention, according to this article, is about Obama, his leadership and HIS nation. It's a New York Times article so what do you expect, but, it certainly got my blood pressure going this morning when I read it. I guess, that the was point of them publishing it… to make certain we UNDERSTAND who is in charge and who is important in the scheme of things. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/30/us/politics/30t

  117. Luis522 says:

    Declaration of Rights & Responsibilities

    As the American Declaration of Independence clearly states, when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for people to band together and collectively declare their rights and responsibilities to which the laws of nature and nature’s God entitle and bind them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should disclose the causes which impel them to such.

    Therefore let us declare that we still hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal and are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But with those rights come responsibilities.
    In order to continually experience life, liberty and happiness as promised, nature’s God demands obedience to His law to protect those rights. This is where we have fallen short and therefore, in order not to lose the blessings of freedom, the people of the world must turn from the sole focus on rights, and recognize the inherent and required responsibilities that we have.

    Among the responsibilities to which we must adhere to maintain our God given rights are honor, courage and vigilance.
    Over time, we believe that these basic human responsibilities have been trampled, and replaced with degradation, fear and apathy.

    But when a long train of abuses of the people and conscience by the media and by other segments of society, pursuing the same path of reducing them to ridicule, scorn and even sub-human status, it is their right, it is their DUTY, to peacefully, but vehemently take a stand.

    Men want to be king, and the more we concentrate on our rights and the more we are told not to worry about our responsibilities, the more we lose our rights.

    Just as physics show, for every action there’s an equal and opposite reaction. The time has come to declare that at least for the western world human rights are generally accepted and moving in the right direction however a new movement is required a movement of human responsibility.

    The media, politicians and large institutions both academic and political have been lying to us, and we must demand the truth be told.

    With that demand, comes the responsibility that we tell the truth first, in ourselves. Too many of us delegate our responsibility to the media…and too many believe there is no personal responsibility at all.
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————
    I'll support and stand for these rights that Glenn Beck has so generously offered to us.
    I'll be sending a copy of this to my reps.

    Would you call this "Declaration" an act, or call, to hatred and/or intolerance?!
    Should we not demand these things of our elected officials, our candidates, and OURSELVES?!
    Or kave Americans so completely lost their way?

    If so, then the 912 and TPM are a total waste of time.

    God Bless America

  118. Hobbes says:

    "POLITICO Breaking News
    ————————————————-
    The man who led the controversial Fast and Furious anti-gun-trafficking operation will step down as the interim head of Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Justice Department announced Tuesday as it named a new acting director for the agency.

    Kenneth Melson, the bureau's acting director, on Wednesday will move to the Office of Legal Policy, where he will be a senior adviser on forensic science, the department said, without making reference to the failed gun-tracking operation that allegedly put guns into the hands of criminals.

    Melson's replacement is B. Todd Jones, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota. "

    Hmmm….. do you suppose Holder & Obama believe this move will stop the investigation of "Fast & Furious"? Let's hope it doesn't… but, who knows!! I'm sure Holder will say we found the problem and corrected it. Time to get on with other stuff. We never ordered this and promise not to do it again.

  119. Hobbes says:

    It appears the "debate" over the debate is over. Cute how Politico describes the event, "bowing to the complaints"…. do you think that's a slam against Republicans? Ha, they are so transparent!

    "POLITICO Breaking News
    ————————————————-
    President Obama, bowing to the complaints of House Speaker John Boehner and other Republicans, has moved his jobs speech before a joint session of Congress back one day, to Thursday, Sept. 8. "

  120. Hobbes says:

    No surprise here, "Obama Rolls Out a Jobs Plan That Doesn't Need Congress":
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/

    • Goober says:

      Really? She says with a surprised look on her Maw! Just how much more proof that this guy intends to become the dictator of this country do we need??? As long as he is handing out his Crack (entitlement programs) then the people do not care??? UGH!

      • Hobbes says:

        That's the big "worry" for me, Goobs. The more he regulates private sector jobs out of existence the more people there will be relying on government to survive. When it comes down to whether or not your children starve which path do you suppose people will take? We need this guy out of there and I just hope he doesn't completely destroy everything before the next election.

    • gladimamerican says:

      Not surprising his majesty doesn't need no stinkin' congress. The thing that I keep telling myself is if it isn't done by congress, any subsequent president can strike it all down. The king of fiats and foodstamps needs to go!

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      hobbes and what is this congress doing to stop this idiot from doing what he is doing or going to do?

  121. Hobbes says:

    This might brighten your day a bit: It appears Issa is keeping his promise to keep investigating Fast & Furious: http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/01/issa-grassl….

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      hobbes, we need to issa to turn up the heat especially on holder and make this a big show. I would love to see holder threaten issa.

  122. Hobbes says:

    I just love this guy! The only good thing about the Illinois redistricting fiasco is that next election I might get a chance to vote for him. Joe Walsh doesn't let them intimidate him: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking

  123. topshot says:

    The simplicity of the quote is stunning, will the blind be made to see? There is another simple quote. "Show me your past and I will show you your future". __Semper Fi

    ___BEST QUOTE OF THE DECADE_ _I_ from the CZECH REPUBLIC_Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.__"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President." _ _

    • olnavyboy says:

      Hang a big "Roger" on that one. A national civics and IQ test should be handed out before a ballot ever is.

      • gladimamerican says:

        I'd go for a basic literacy test. Figure that 47% of the Detroit population is functionally illiterate, meaning they are unable to fill out basic forms, read prescription bottles to know what's in them or how many to take, basic everyday skills required for independant survival, like getting a job. Obama won Wayne county MI almost 3 to 1. Multiply that by other dem run counties where you have a huge population relying on the goverment for their existence, and you end up with a lot of ignorant people voting.

    • gladimamerican says:

      That is so true Top! We can only hope after seeing what a huge failure this pres and his policies are, the masses will take it upon themselves to get educated. There of course will be those that vote for him because of the "D" beside his name or other totally unimportant reasons for a person to be president, but they are a minority. My concern is that is he already starting his FAKE lean toward the middle by his backtrack on the smog plan, and how many will believe he's going moderate.

    • ebarnes says:

      My concern is that there are so many on the take now. So many waiting for their hand out. They will continue to vote for whoever gives them their hand out. It is a sad state of affairs when who you vote for is determined by which candidate will give you the best hand out. sheesh

    • gladimamerican says:

      She is really good! Looks like I may have to tune into " The Voice" though I hadn't planned on it. (I avoid NBC as much as possible). The winner gets a 100,000 and a recording contract and who can be more deserving than a member of our Military?

      • Hobbes says:

        I'm not familiar with the show either… my sentiments on NBC too. It certainly would be nice if a member of the Military won, wouldn't it.

  124. IdahoAnnie says:

    I am collecting stories of where you were and more importantly, what you felt and thought on 9-11-2001. Forget about the theories and "proof" you have now about it. I am looking for the moment or hours of what was felt in your heart and gut. Can you all help me out please? Send them to rebuildingfreedom@gmail.com

    Thanks guys and gals. I will keep them annonymous if you like, or post your screen name with them if I put them up on the site.

    • gladimamerican says:

      Good idea Annie! I know I remember where I was and what I was doing, the whole day has been etched in my mind. I still have the newspapers from the next day, I wasn't able to read them, and still haven't been able to.

  125. Hobbes says:

    This is just shocking particularly with the disastrous fires happening right now in Texas:
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46009

    • gladimamerican says:

      Oh, it gets even better! FEMA has told our volunteer firefighters to stand down!!!!!!!!!! http://www.infowars.com/fema-forces-firefighters-http://dprogram.net/2011/09/07/fema-forces-firefi…. There are fools running this country!

      • Hobbes says:

        It just insane! It's now gotten to the point we can't even help our neighbors when they need it without government approval.

      • Aearlath says:

        I have friends in the area. I heard about the FEMA stuff. One friend of mine saved his dad's land by ignoring FEMA entirely. They had told him he couldn't do anything. The guy flat out did what he needed to do and saved 4 homes in the process.

        Anyway, the good news is, none of my friends lost any of their homes. Not everyone was as fortunate….

        I think there's a lesson for us in this. When the feds tell us to do something, IGNORE THE HELL OUT OF IT.

        • Hobbes says:

          Yep, that's how we do it and we ALWAYS HAVE! Good for your friend! And, the thing that bugs the hell out of liberals and the feds is that there are a lot more like your friend out there.
          "Ignore" is exactly the right answer, Aerlath.

  126. topshot says:

    If it was only this easy.

    The person that wrote this is a college student. Perhaps there is Hope for us after all.

    DIVORCE AGREEMENT

    THIS IS SO INCREDIBLY WELL PUT AND I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT'S BY A YOUNG PERSON. STUDENT! WHATEVER HE RUNS FOR, I'LL VOTE FOR HIM.

    Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:

    We have stuck together since the late 1950's for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for 'The sake of future generations', but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.

    Our two ideological sides of America can not and will not ever agree on what is right for all of us, so let's just end it on friendly terms, smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.

    Here is a model separation agreement:

    Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy!
    Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.

    We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them.
    You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
    Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.

    We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and you can go with wind, solar and bio-diesel.

    You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them.

    We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.

    You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, home boys, hippies, druggies and illegal aliens.

    We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks.

    We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.

    You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.

    You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.
    When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.

    We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.
    You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness and Shirley McClain.
    You can also have the U.N. But we will no longer be paying the bill.
    We'll keep the SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars.
    You Can take every Volt and Leaf you can find.

    You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors.

    We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right.

    We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."

    I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine", "I'd Like to Teach The World to Sing", "Kum Ba Ya" or "We Are the World".

    We'll practice trickle down economics and you can continue to give trickle up poverty your best shot.

    Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.

    Would you agree to this?
    If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete.
    In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you answer which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

    Sincerely,

    John J. Wall
    Law student and an American

    P.S. Also, please take Ted Turner, Sean Penn, Martin Sheen, Barbara Streisand, & Jane Fonda with you.

    P.S.S. And you won't have to press 1 for English when you call our Country.

    Semper Fi

  127. Richard (FL) says:

    While today is the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 strike, it also is grandparents day. Not to take anything away from the thoughts and prayers of the 9/11 reflection, but please reserve a little time in your heart for all the grandparents who have helped raise you throughout your life. Happy Grandparents Day to all of us who fall into that category! http://www.grandparents-day.com Grandparents do (and should) have a special place in our heart.

  128. ebarnes says:

    A song for the memory of today………
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_clidR7drg

  129. gladimamerican says:

    Paul Krugman, what a disgrace, using today to get his liberal jabs in. I'm providing a link to the article, he's a lib and I don't even want to chance copyright problems. Because it is hateful, krugman has disallowed comments to his article. I thought maybe we could comment on it here. My FIRST problem is his posing the question "Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?" I don't know about lib land, but my actions in mourning are always subdued. Here's the link : http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/the-y

    • Aearlath says:

      I don't care for the tone of the "article" for sure. What did the guy expect? Giant parades and fireworks?

      That said, in some sense it has been years of shame. (Likely I draw these conclusions for totally different reasons than our NY Times friend.) Just about everything we've done since 9/11 was reactive rather then proactive. Our police actions aren't increasing our security. Terrorism is still thriving and we're losing good men and women for what exactly? The freedom of foreigners who don't even want us there? TSA isn't improving security, it's grossly infringing on rights. The TSA agents are poorly trained and in general tend to lack any sort of common sense. If we were serious about airport security we'd follow Israel's example. Instead we're more interested in nudie scans or groping.

      Our borders are wide open! How is this not a priority if invading two separate 3rd world nations is? Now we're involved in Libya and there's talk of getting involved in Syria. Why stop there? Let's just take over the whole of the middle east. That seems to be where we're headed.

      I don't know. In some sense I suppose I agree with him. We've reacted very badly to 9/11 and now are less free and less secure than before. It's almost like the US can't function at all anymore. Instead of doing anything remotely smart it's like we collectively lash out blindly hitting all the wrong targets.

      • Hobbes says:

        My reactions to mourning are always subdued too, Glad. Sorry, Aearleath, I won't go the "shame" route. Liberals should be ashamed because they've chosen to deal with REAL enemies in a PC "Oh let's not offend them again" manner. You're dealing with a Lib that wrote that article and he's a dumb ass. He and the likes of him believe appeasement is the way to win. See how much hay that makes with the Muslim Brotherhood and other Muslims… they laugh and know it's only time before the Infidels submit. The only way to deal with them is out and out terror (give them a piece of their own back)… something libs either refuse to do or don't have the guts to do. My guess, they don't have the guts!

        • Aearlath says:

          Well, shame in the sense that we've sort of flubbed up and aren't doing what we should be. My reasons and the reasons of the dork that wrote the article are of course divergent. ;)

          As for the guy that wrote it, I have no idea who he is. (NY Times, therefor who he is… really isn't pertinent. The guy is sort of a loser by default. ;) ) What seems clear is he's got a real problem with how to appropriately remember a terrible day. Plus the stupid Bush comments. I mean what was that about? I'm not fond of Bush's policy myself but I don't think he's the devil incarnate. He'd certainly be better than Mr. Big Head!!

  130. ebarnes says:

    OMG!!!! It is way more than "just a flag" Holy Cow!!!
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-repor

  131. gladimamerican says:

    Has the main stream media declared was on the Amish? Since the feds raided the Amish dairy in April, it seems every time you turn around there is another case against the Amish in the news. Sexting, fondling, not displaying safety signs and a Bernie Madoff type Ponzi scheme. The Amish, like any other culture will have bad apples, but it seems to me that there is an effort to bring their crimes to the forefront. Is this so the feds don't look so bad for the raid on the dairy? I don't know, but it sure seems odd that the Amish are all of a sudden making the news with such frequency.

    • Aearlath says:

      If they are targeting the Amish it's probably to discourage independent thought and living. Our progressive pals tend to hate any sort of thinking that isn't in their small narrow box. :)

  132. IdahoAnnie says:

    Here's "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS" – a Muslim buys eleven acres of land next to
    A pig farm (a family farm that has been in Houston a long time) and NOW WANTS THE PIG FARMER TO LEAVE!!?? That takes a lot of damn nerve! So what's the pig farmer's response to that….. PIG RACES DURING FRIDAY NIGHT PRAYERS!!

    I love it! Don't mess with Texas – The clip is funny – even the news crew is laughing.
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/dUr1NxJDC94?rel=0

  133. topshot says:

    Today in MHO is a dark day for our Military, DADT (Don't Ask Don't Tell) is no more. Being a Marine and a Vietnam Combat Veteran I feel I have earned the right to comment on this new law. I will refrain from talking about the legality of this new law and instead comment on the Moral of the Troops and Safety in a Combat Situation. Unless you have been in combat it is hard for you to really understand the feeling of trust and dependency one combatant has for another. You are in a real life and death situation where trust may be the one variable that will either save your life or that of your fellow fighter. There can be no doubt in your mind about the actions of the man or woman next to you or in a supporting role. Like it or not the reality is that the vast majority of those serving both in a combat and non combat situation have a distrust of gays. If some in your unit are openly proclaiming their alternate lifestyle they will be shunned and distrusted by the majority. With the new law I have no doubt that many or most gays will proclaim their new found freedom and our military who already are stressed with the constant deployment into a war zone will become even more depressed and resentful. We are adults here so I will speak to you like an adult, there is a huge difference in suspecting someone might be gay and them proclaiming it out in the open. I am quite sure many contemplating a career in the military will change their minds.

    Some may call be a bigot or a homophobe, that is your choice and freedom. I was happy to fight for that right you so richly enjoy now. Our military will become weaker and more vulnerable because of this new law and the blood of our brave men and women will be on the hands of those who saw fit to change things. Unit cohesion and integrity will never be the same and I already grieve for those who will be sacrificed because of the effect this law will have.

    Semper Fi

    • gladimamerican says:

      I personally don't care about a persons sexuality, but I don't need them to shout it from the rooftop. I watched the news today where I saw two people stand before an audience, state their sex, branch of military and then that they were gay, like an AA meeting! Another came out to his father on freaking youtube for goodness sake. I'm expect there will be problems stemming from activist gays, their actions won't be" live and let live", it will be "in your face", and from your post and experience, I don't think it will go over well.

      • topshot says:

        Glad, one of the either unforeseen or totally ignored problems is what happens on the battlefield when a know gay is wounded. Will the Navy Corpsman, the Army,Air Force or Coast Guard Medic hesitate giving life saving medical attention because of the possibility of contracting HIV or Aids? These are dedicated warrior/healers who I personally have put my life in their hands but they are also human. Seconds can count in a situation like that and what happens if there is that moment of doubt. What about their fellow troops who now know who is gay and who isn't. How would you react seeing blood and limbs covering a given area and your thoughts go to " I wonder if he has Aids? " instead of I have to do what I can to help. These are real thoughts that our troops WILL have whether people want to admit it or not. Everything looks just fine on paper but in the real world of flying bullets and combat the last thing our troops need is something to in any way break their concentration. Combat is without a doubt the most stressful situation any individual can be involved in. I say this from first hand experience, an experience that changes everyone ever involved in it.

        Thanks for your reply.
        Semper Fi

        • olnavyboy says:

          I can see courts-martial beginning for those who refuse to give blood on the battlefield. This will be used as a club to keep the enlisted and lower-level officers in check. I am very glad I am out. So much for a force that is dedicated to killing fools and breaking things.

          • topshot says:

            olnavyboy, I can see lives needlessly lost because some want to make a statement. There is a time and place for those statements and when we have our military in harms was it is neither the time or place for this to happen.

            Semper Fi

          • Richard (FL) says:

            This will, in the end, make things more difficult for those in theater. As you've eluded to earlier, hesitation or lack of life saving actions will draw condemnation from those who shout their new found right to proclaim who they are. Unit cohesion be damned. All the studies in the world will not repair the damage created by this move to those fighting in the trenches and sadly, our military becomes weaker for it in reaction capabilities.

        • olnavyboy says:

          Remember all the jokes we used to make? I bet those are verboten now.

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      agreed and I couldn't have said it better.

      • topshot says:

        Thank you Annie, my only concern is for my fellow Veterans. Isn't it ironic that they are fighting for the rights of these same people to further complicate an already dangerous situation. The sad thing is the fact that when one of these Hero's are killed because of this activist action they will shrug it off as if they had no part in it. The blood spilled will be on their hands whether they will admit it or not.

        Semper Fi

    • Aearlath says:

      Excellent points there. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. (It's really not all that "interesting" when lives are on the line though is it?)

      • topshot says:

        Aearlath, you make an excellent point. When this becomes the reason for a needless loss of life the Lame Stream Media will focus not on that fact but on how the military was so wrong for so long. They are predictable and it is to be expected from a media who would love to see this country become the Socialist country this administration is working so hard to create. Thanks for your comment.

        Semper Fi

        • Aearlath says:

          The loss of life is what can really get me angry if I let it. It's one thing to sit back (I'm meaning the media here) and experiment with social engineering but quite another when it comes at the expense of lives. Really, all social engineering could be argued to do that though. The push to break families, force both parents to work, penalize marriage or having kids, etc… (Yes, I'm going off on a tangent….)

          Well, I'll just simplify and say: we're in a bit of a mess here.

          • topshot says:

            Aearlath, that is truly an understatement, part of this mess will go away in 2012 if all of us do our part and vote the Impostor in Chief out of office. BTW, you can go off on a tangent anytime you want, in fact I will look forward to it.

            Semper Fi

    • Hobbes says:

      Excellent post, Topshot.

      • topshot says:

        Thanks Hobbes, my only concern is the safety of our troops in harms way. A combat situation is no place for social experimentation, unlike protesting, marching or media shows people die. I don't want our reoops to die because someone want's to announce their sexual preferences.

        Semper Fi

  134. topshot says:

    A little humor is in order, this could also be said about Liberals.

    An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger." The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, "What would you want to talk about?" "Oh, I don't know," said the atheist. "How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly. "OK," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff –
    grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?" The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea." To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death, when you don't know crap?" And then she went back to reading her book.

    Semper Fi

  135. fedupinnyc says:

    Orly Taitz Goes to Washington.

    I forwarded my information on Social security fraud to 12 high ranking senators and congressmen and had personal in depth meetings with legal counsel, chiefs of staff and senior advisers for 4 high ranking senators and 3 representatives: Senator Tom Coburn-ranking member of the subcommittee on privacy on senate judicial committee, Senator Jim Inhofe, Senator Marco Rubio, Congressman Lamar Smith-chair f the House Judiciary committee, Congressman Alen West, Congressman Steven King.

    I also forwarded my information to Senator Schumer, Senator Lieberman, Senator Feinstein, Senator Lautenberg, Senator Blumenthal. Unlike prior 7 , who are conservative Republicans, these 5 senators are Democrats, (Lieberman is a former Democrat, currently Independent) but might join the fight for other reasons. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/

  136. Hobbes says:

    Pretty funny that Obama would declare that Republicans would "cripple" America when that's all he's been trying to do since he's been anointed!
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA?S

  137. topshot says:

    Here is a little something for you Scientists and science buffs to chew on. Faster than the speed of Light? Perhaps so. I am impressed that the Scientist doing the experiment have opened up their research and encouraged others to challenge and verify their findings. If others can duplicate their tests sucessfully then E=MC2 will have been proven to be a theory in error. Read it and post your thoughts.

    A team of European physicists has a big part of the scientific world questioning one of the fundamental laws of physics and wondering whether they need to rethink the work of Albert Einstein.

    The physicists recently discovered they could send a subatomic particle faster than the speed of light – something that no one thought could ever be done.

    According to Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity — the one made famous by the equation E=mc2 — it's not possible for anything to go faster than the speed of light. For Einstein, it was just a theory. Yet it has since been verified enough times for physicists to agree that the speed of light — about 299,792 kilometres per second – must be the absolute speed limit in all the cosmos.

    But on Thursday, researchers on a project called OPERA announced they had recorded sub-atomic particles called "neutrinos" travelling faster than light.

    Over three years, they fired a neutrino beam from a particle accelerator at the CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) lab near Geneva to a lab in Italy. To their surprise, they discovered the neutrinos had travelled 60 nanoseconds — sixty billionth of a second — faster than the speed of light.

    Scientists calculated the margin of error at just 10 nanoseconds, making the difference statistically significant.

    What's a neutrino?

    They're odd bits of an atom that are produced through radioactive decay in the sun, for example, or in certain nuclear reactors.

    They are so small, they weigh next-to-nothing. The fact they do carry a tiny, but measurable, mass had led scientists to assume they must move slower than light, which has no mass at rest. This discovery that that may not be true has left physicists confused.

    The CERN scientists said their finding was made months ago, but given its significance, they checked and rechecked their work several times before announcing the results.

    Not surprisingly perhaps, the claim is being greeted with skepticism both inside and outside CERN.

    "The feeling that most people have is this can't be right, this can't be real," said James Gillies, a spokesman for CERN said.

    The lab researchers planned to detail their findings on Friday. And of course, they say they are planning more experiments to further test the findings.

    Gillies told The Associated Press the readings have so astounded researchers that "they are inviting the broader physics community to look at what they've done and really scrutinize it in great detail."

    Only two labs in the world are even capable of trying to replicate the results. One is Fermilab outside Chicago, and the other is a Japanese lab that's been out of commission since the March tsunami and earthquake.

    Fermilab officials met Thursday about verifying the European study and said their particle beam is already up and running. The only trouble is that their measuring systems aren't nearly as precise as the Europeans' and won't be upgraded for a while, said Fermilab scientist Rob Plunkett.

    Interestingly, a team at Fermilab had similar faster-than-light results in 2007. But that experiment had such a large margin of error that the scientific significance evaporated.

    With reports from The Associated Press

    Semper Fi

    • ebarnes says:

      WOW Top, that is astounding. We didn't think we could break the sound barrier either, but look what happened there. It is amazing. I can't imagine how this discovery will effect the world of physics. I am more into the natural sciences than physics, but I can see that this will lead to new theories, thoughts and ideas. It may be true that science fiction is the precuecor to science fact. I can't imagine going from earth to the sun in less than 8 minutes. How does that effect time? I know there was some theories that if you went the speen of light, it would effect time. It all blows my mind. I can't imagine all the possiblities this weill open up……. Like I said, I am not a physics major, but I do read.

  138. ebarnes says:

    News not reported about the DC Gun Ban Law struck down:
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/30/media-s

  139. IdahoAnnie says:

    The 5,000 Year Leap Study Group on http://www.rebuildingfreedom.org.
    Come and join us in a study of Willard Cleon Skousen’s Book “The 5,000 Year Leap”
    First study group meets, Saturday, October 22, 2011. Time 4 PM Pacific. Join us in the group forum.
    If you can’t meet then, don’t worry, the information will be posted in the group. You can tune in when you can, add comments or thoughts and you won’t miss a thing.
    Here is the link to the Study Guide. http://rebuildingfreedom.org/information/informat

  140. IdahoAnnie says:

    wake up everybody…………… here is the real enemy………… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBylRo&fe

  141. Luis522 says:

    These are sections from the U.S. Declaration of Independence:
    What's in parenthesis reflects our current state of affairs. Back then, of course, it involved the tyranny (terrorism) of King George.

    He has (The Sharia Caliphate have) refused his Assent (accept) to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has (They have) forbidden his Governors (made deadly threats) to (if We'd) pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation (Sharia) till his (their, the sharia muslims,) Assent (acceptance) should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has (they WILL) utterly (neglect)ed to attend to them.
    He has (They have) refused to pass (offer) other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants (Islam) only.
    He has (The Sharia muslims have) called together legislative bodies (called together the Muslim Brotherhood, Ham ass, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda… ) at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them (through death and terror) into compliance (submission) with his (their) measures.

    So, who do you see as our CIC?!

  142. ebarnes says:

    He did it. Jerry Brown signs Dream Act:
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/

  143. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Tax Czar here. Alsacien asked that I respond to the Herman Cain 9-9-9 tax idea. I do not like it. For the personal taxes, he does not allow any itemized deductions except donations. Then he taxes what is left at 9%. If you itemize now (form 1040 A), he will not allow medical, taxes nor mortgage interest deductions. That will raise your tax base. I just did a tax return. I redid it at Cain's 9%. He says he would do away with the social security and Medicare taxes. My client would pay $518.00 more. Remember he is really a Fair Tax guy. He wants to end the IRS. That is what people are reacting to. But, it allows for the rate to rise over time. Gov't spending must be lowered for this to work. Also, it increases the number of people who have to pay and that will bring an uproar from the 48% that pay nothing at all. The top 10% would likely like this as there is no capital gains tax, no dividends double taxation and no death tax. The lower class pays more, the middle class pays a little more and top pays less. He is on the right track but not there.

  144. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Tax Czar here, Alsacien asked me to comment on Cain's 9-9-9 idea. Business portion now. This looks very simple. But, he plays with this one. I heard him say that business purchases from US companies are deductible while foreign made materials are not deductible. How is this going to be handled when so much is foreign made? It will put any biz that imports raw materials at a disadvantage. That alone will raise taxes on existing companies. He makes it sound so easy while his own website has very few details. Plus this will eventually become a Value Added Tax like Europe has and it is terrible. It will make goods more expensive as each level of manufacturing gets taxed. He also said this 9% was only the beginning, to get people used to the idea before he raises the percentage later. It is a sucker play.

  145. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Tax Czar here, Alsacien asked me to comment on Cain's 9-9-9 proposals. Federal Sales Tax issue. The State sales, Local sales, Property and Personal property taxes all stay as is. The National Sales Tax at 9% is only a teaser because it must be at least 25% to make ends meet. I have never been a fan of a national sales tax as the feds will figure out a way to spend it improperly. Cain cannot control Congress. His ideas are not fine tuned enough to get anywhere. Now he is talking about empowerment zones that will get special tax treatment if you live in one, work in one or invest in one. And, there will be "prebate" checks for the poorer people to give them money to pay the 9% sales tax. WHAT? Nope, I am against his ideas.

  146. Luis522 says:

    NYT Op Ed
    Is the Tea Party Over?

    This column, by Bill Keller, came out in the NYT on Sunday, Oct 9, 2011 *.

    Lets get FORENSIC on it, shall we! This was their opening salvo:

    Paragraph 1:
    ' This was supposed to be the Tea Party’s time. The incumbent president the rebels despise so much seemed vulnerable. The Republican establishment was AWOL, leaderless or intimidated. So the angry, God-fearing, government-loathing populist insurgents rushed into the vacuum, fired up the town halls, helped put a halt to any compromising in Congress and basically commandeered the national debate. '

    ?! THAT was your first shot, Bill? I think you're confused. Obama's the one with the fine crystal jaw.
    You see, we've just got started, and, judging by the Nov 2010 and NY-9 results, I'd say that OUR openning salvo was very affective — unlike this Op Ed, and all 14 trillion of Obama's TELE-speeches!

    Your sacred leader's "vulnerability" has been self inflicted. The poor, spoiled and privilidged boy-king, whom has never ever worked in a factory, dug a ditch, or even pumped gas, has to have his messes mopped up and sanitized by Obama's nationwide press corps (not "corpse"! ).

    Yes, we're angry; and I hope that the "Republican Establishment" DOES feel as intimidated as the Democrats do about US; the People – whom despises ANY over-reaching, and oppressive, government. Thomas Jefferson said it best when he said, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. I am not a friend to a very energetic government.".

    This column has finally brought the truth out of the closet. The Democrats and the RINOs are ALL the "Establishment". They are ALL one lazy and corrupt machine.

    Paragraph 5:
    ' But the fickleness of the G.O.P. is not entirely a media phenomenon. The latest Fox poll offered Republican voters a menu of 11 candidates and found that not only were voters scattered across the conservative landscape, but a quarter of the Tea Party adherents sampled were still “not impressed” with anyone. It’s hard to impress a movement that only knows what it is against.'
    Unlike the DC esttablishment, the Tea Party has no leader — of that you were right, Bill. But we are center-right-conservative: Small limited federalistic government that RECOGNIZES and RESPECTS the sovereign Rights of EACH of the FIFTY States (Not "57" – like Obama had once claimed!).
    We believe in personal and fiscal responsibility and accountability (That means that WE DON'T LOOK BLAME everything from successful people to EARTHQUAKES! ).
    The US Government's function is to protect and defend our Constitution — which includes its citizens, its borders (air, sea, and land) , AND its currency.
    Where the " "Pursuit" of Happiness" and " "Promoting" the general welfare" equates to LIBERTY — and NOT government centralization and expansion.

    The Rev/Dr Martin Luther King Jr marched for EQUAL justice, and NOT SOCIAList justice!

    The reason that the TPM hasn't gotten behind any ONE person, as of yet, is because we ARE diverse. We have learned, within the last four years alone, that we would NOT jump-the-gun and get blindly behind an unknown and/or unvetted candidate — just because they look good and sound right; or because the "establishment elite" SAYS SU!

    We are NOT going to be the complacent, and herded sheeple, anymore!

    - Luis522 ref:

    * http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/is-the-

  147. Luis522 says:

    The Last SLAMurai

    BOzo: My teleprompter… I, I mean "I" want a photo-op… Errr, I mean, say that I'm sorry for —

    Japan's Foreign Minister: Apologize? Why? Did you fart?!

    BOzo: I… Err… No! For Hiroshima… I —

    JFM: Hiroshima?! Did you fart in Hirishuma?!

    BOzo: (???!!!) No, no, no! For the bombing! During the War!

    JFM: Were YOU there? Did you drop them yourself?!

    BOzo: (sigh! Fer cryin' out! ) NO! I mean, no sir. Do you have skype?! You can watch me get on my knees! Just give me a sec while I get the Press Corpse —

    JFM: (?! Again w/ the "corpse"?! BAKA!) What's wrong with you! Hitting the saki too hard?!

    BOzo: [ (What the fuh...) He reaches in a drawer, pulls out a cigaraette, and lights it .] I wish to apologize on behalf of the United —

    JFM: Are you kichigaino?! You need to stop smoking that symbolic crack pipe!

    (click)

    Luis522

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      Luis, I wonder if o stays up at night, smokin his cig, thinking of stuff like this. He has better things to do like play golf or visit family in Kenya or Indonesia.

      • Luis522 says:

        . . . Lets not forget Ireland! lol!

        Imo, BOzo DOESN'T THINK! The union leaders, and Soros do the thinking FOR him!

        It's funny… There are STILL people, even on the TP sites, that believe that he is the mastermind!

        That type of mindset is more dangerous than one might think, because it will lead to believing that once BOzo's out, we're saved; and it's all over!

        The global-Progressives are meshed into ALL the partys. They've been planning and waiting for '06 and '08 for what they probably believe has been forever!

        "Forever", if we're not VERY CAREFUL, will be here to stay.

        • PatriotEagle1 says:

          Luis, I am sure they have back up plans behind back up plans no matter who gets the hot seat. Imagine Biden doing their bidding? They would have to stuff a sock in his mouth. Pelosi and Reid are for sure on board. I would not trust Boehner for an inch or a day.

          • Luis522 says:

            Boehner's weakness is that he's TOO emotional, and I believe that he feels VERY intimidated by the power, and ruthlessness. of the dem machine and media/press.

            Don't get me wrong. I'm not excusing ANY of'em, but they DO have access to real/raw data that we'll NEVER see!

            Sometimes I really do feel that we're in a blackhole!

            • PatriotEagle1 says:

              Luis, I know what you mean about the black hole. Boehner is just not the man for the job. I expected more powerful leadership. Dot thinks there are death threats against anyone who opposes the regime. I fear what o has done and plans to do. He is so able to get what he wants and thumbs his nose at judge's and congressional challenges. What an arrogant, pompous, manipulated man.

              • Luis522 says:

                "He is so able to get what he wants"

                Only because our "2010 reps" FOLD every time — when the pressure's on! "Govt shutdown!" "The sky is falling!"

                • PatriotEagle1 says:

                  Luis, you nailed it. Where the hell are the people we vetted, paid money to their campiagns and voted for? Why is not Bachmann and West in front of the TV every day telling us what is going on so we can make lots of noise. Where are the challenges to the exec orders? Not one leader emerged from that 2010 bunch. I am damned angry about that and now we have to go through that whole proceess over again. It wears one out.

  148. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Luis, great that you are spreading it around. No, I was just asking cause it is so good that I had hoped you were passing it along to various sites and people. Good job.

  149. IdahoAnnie says:

    IN RESPONSE TO THE CALL FOR UNITY. There is a page for links to other websites. You can find it here: http://rebuildingfreedom.org/information/other-re…. It's been around since RF started. We have been posting on other sites, trying to gather thinkers and writers and researchers to help spread the word. To consolodate and coordinate efforts to expose and replace the crooks with honest, sincere leaders. This has all fallen on deaf ears. We have had very few replies to our requests. To those who have responded, we thank you. Rebuilding Freedom is not going anywhere. It was started by a group of sincere Patriots and will continue to shout out to other Patriots and to those who have sat on the fence. We will continue to offer a place for all who want to share their knowledge (no matter what that might be) and to those who wish to learn and be informed. If we can promote other sites that have the same purpose, then so much the better. All are welcome there. The only thing we require is that all check their egos at the door.

  150. Luis522 says:

    I recv'd this email from my rep, Vern Buchanan (R-FL13th):

    October 14, 2011
    There are roughly 1.7 million fewer jobs in the U.S. since President Obama’s $1 trillion stimulus spending bill became law. The President recently proposed another $450 billion “jobs plan,” which calls for more government spending.
    Another massive spending bill will do nothing to reduce unemployment or boost our economy. Instead, it is time for Congress to put the federal government’s fiscal house back in order.
    I agree with Charles Schwab, who said “Behind every job is an entrepreneur.”
    If we continue to follow President Obama’s ill-advised policies of the past, entrepreneurs will not be able to start new businesses and create jobs, which is what we need to get our economy turned around.
    As we move forward, it’s important to keep in mind one fundamental truth: the government does not create jobs. The private sector creates jobs, so we need a pro-growth plan that invigorates private sector expansion.
    How do you feel about the President’s $450 billion jobs proposal?
    Vern

    I emailed him w/ this reply:
    Barack Obama's $450B is nothing more than union slush/ campaign fund — as was mucn of the rest of the bailout/stimulus.

    NONE OF IT went for jobs, shovel-ready, or otherwise!

    NONE OF IT went to repair/replace roads or bridges (infrastructure)!

    NONE OF IT was ever true!

    • Goober says:

      So true Luis… It is absolutely reacherous what is being done to our country in the name of a Jobs Bill! BS I say… we must insist that our representatives do NOT pass this union bailout and we will need to UNDO all of the crap that he has now told people to JUST DO IT if there is a way around congress! That tells it all for me. If I don;t get my way I am just going to peice meal out all of it that does not REQUIRE congressional approval.. WHAT A SNAKE~

  151. MegansDad says:

    yo friends cool site,

  152. Luis522 says:

    TEXAS: Students Must Learn "The Pledge", and the "National Anthem". THE MEXICAN ONE, that is!

    TX High School Students Made to Recite Mexican National Anthem, Pledge of Allegiance

    ' Students in a Texas public high school were made to stand up and recite the Mexican national anthem and Mexican pledge of allegiance as part of a Spanish class assignment, but the school district maintains there was nothing wrong with the lesson.

    It happened last month in an intermediate Spanish class at Achieve Early College High School in McAllen, Texas — a city located about 10 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Wearing red, white and green, students had to memorize the Mexican anthem and pledge and stand up and recite them in individually in front of the class.

    That didn’t go over well with sophomore Brenda Brinsdon. The 15-year-old sat down and refused to participate. She also caught it all on video:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blaze-exclusive-t

    “I just thought it was out of hand, I didn’t think it was right,” she told The Blaze. “Reciting pledges to Mexico and being loyal to it has nothing to do with learning Spanish.”

    She said she was particularly offended because the presentations in teacher Reyna Santos’s class took place during “Freedom Week,” the week after the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and on U.S. Constitution Day — the same day as Mexico’s Independence Day.'

    I wonder if Gov Perry would consider this student "insensitive"!

  153. fedupinnyc says:

    Fasten your seat belts kids, It's gonna get ugly!

    WALL STREET INSIDER: The Obama White House Wants Us Gone. All of Us.

    The violence that is coming. What some want to see happen. As I told you, the tone that came back from those calls made to the White House – it was…oddly indifferent. That indifference tells me they have decided to push these protests to the brink. I don’t entirely understand why…why they would be willing to do so – and that frightens me.
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/10/17/wall-str

  154. Luis522 says:

    OWS: Keep Looking Where THEY Tell You To Look!

    Meanwhile . . .
    Killers In The Midst

    Obama and Odinga Campaign in Kenya before Election
    (See Video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6eVVVKFHu0&fe… )

    ' This is Obama's Kenya. All of it. '

    This is whom, and what, Barack Obama supports:
    NAIROBI, Kenya, Nov 28 – Prime Minister Raila Odinga has ordered a nationwide crackdown on homosexuals in Kenya.

    Mr Odinga on Sunday said that police should arrest anyone found engaging in such behaviours and take appropriate legal action against them.

    "We will not tolerate such behaviours in the country. The constitution is very clear on this issue and men or women found engaging in homosexuality will not be spared," Mr Odinga said. ' *

    A MONUMENTAL HYPOCRISY

    ' A move by Uganda to introduce a Bill calling for long jail terms or death penalty in some cases of homosexuality received international condemnation, with US President Barack Obama describing it as "odious". '

    * http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/obama-supported

    Obama threatens to impose sanctions if the Ivory Coast fails to comply with his demands which would replace a legitimately elected Christian leader with a Muslim.

    ' The Ivory Coast is facing the forced Islamist takeover of its government, a move being pushed by the United States and United Nations, whose leaders reportedly are ignoring the nation’s own procedures that determined Laurent Gbagbo, a Christian, legitimately was re-elected president, according to a report from Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin.

    The forced selection of Quattara by outside influences runs contrary to constitutionally established procedures in the Ivory Coast regarding such determinations, critics contend. Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga has called for African nations to remove Mr Gbagbo by force if necessary.

    In this case, the issue centers on whether the United States and U.N. will select the next Ivory Coast president or allow the decision by the country’s constitutional council to prevail. ' http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/01/22/ju

    Yeah, stay fixated on America's OWS! That's exactly what the Obama-machine wants!

  155. RageforOrder says:

    Just wanted to say hi and nice looking site.I hope I didn't offend anybody's feelings by speaking freely about this site on the growl.But it is what it is……everything on the site looks great,one can definately see the time and hard work put in,it just needs more members.

    • olnavyboy says:

      I don't think you offended anyone. You questioned with boldness, and asked for clarification. Is that not the essence of what we are trying to accomplish?

      Members will come with time. We have good content, a great layout, and excellent tech support. We are ready to do some work. Good seeing you.

  156. Luis522 says:

    It Takes A Thief

    BOzo Got DePrompted?!
    ' A truck filled with BOzo's presidential seal on a podium, the see-thru Teleprompter and a portable sound system, with a taxpayer cost of $200k , was stolen in Henrico, VA, just days before his campaign stop in Chesterfield.
    The truck was recovered in the parking lot of the Holiday Inn Express – in the same condition of our economy: LOOTED AND EMPTY!

    A couple of questions:

    How does something like THIS happen?! Where was the USSS?!

    In the same manner that all of this happened, a bomb, bio or otherwise, could've been placed in his vicinity where innocent people could've been seriously hurt or killed!

    One last question:
    Will the stealing of the teleprompter be treated as a KIDNAPPING!
    lol!
    ( I couldn't resist! ;-D )

    * Story edited from : http://www.nbc12.com/story/15716468/thieves-steal

  157. Luis522 says:

    Communism "Not" Expanding? YUAN-na Bet?!

    FOR SALE: Socialist Europe. Best offer. Buy of trade.

    China secretly backing euro–zone rescue: report
    Oct. 17, 2011
    HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — China has pledged in secret to back a euro-zone bailout that will include investments in infrastructure and sovereign debt, the U.K.'s Sunday Times reported. The paper cited sources close to the G20 group of nations' talks in Paris which it didn't identify. In exchange for the backing, China is seeking additional commitments on budget cuts and structural reforms among member nations of the currency bloc, the report said. China had indicated its willingness to invest "tens of billions" by purchasing infrastructure assets from financially ailing states, while Chinese banks would increase purchases of sovereign debt, the report said. "China wants to be sure that Europe knows the size of the hole and that it won't get any bigger before they agree to fill it in," http://www.marketwatch.com/story/china-secretly-b

    The keywords that bounced out at me were:
    BAILOUT
    INVESTMENTS
    INFRASTRUCTURE / "commitments on STRUCTRURAL REFORMS
    "PURCHASING INFRASTRUCTURE ASSETS"

    Remember, back on October 1, 2009, how NYC CELEBRATED China officially becoming a TYRANNICAL/COMMUNIST government?! Yes. The Empire State Bldg sported the red+yellow colors for the 60th anniversary of Mao's terror-regime.

    I knew that NewsWeek was right: "We're ALL Socialists Now"!

    "Bailouts", "Investments", "Infrastructure"…Obama.
    Didn't Obama FORCE the banks to take "Bailout"?!
    What did GM+ Chrysler's bondholders get?
    Is it the intention of the BOzo Admimistration to PAYBACK the TAXPAYERS, for their LOSSES in SOLYNDRA, FIRST?!

  158. gladimamerican says:

    Free GBTV tonight, no sign in or purchase necessary. 5:00 P.M. est. http://web.gbtv.com/index.jsp Tonight is "The Truth about Public Education" @ 5 and "Family Book Club" with Richard Paul Evans discussing Michael Vey-The Prisoner of Cell 25 @ 6.

  159. Luis522 says:

    The SNOW-jobs Bill

    First Harry Reid blocks the vote on BOzo's SNOW-jobs bill, because he knew he didn't have the votes.

    Then, they're forced to vote on it; coming up short — by THEIR OWN members!

    Now, they'll break down the “Jobs Bill” and re-introduce it by segments — starting w/ with a vote for ANOTHER FAUX-STIMULUS/UNION SLUSH under the guise that it would help SPECIFIC states pay teachers (Which was already done!), and fire fighters, and police (Which falls under the sovereign jurisdiction of the States! )

    A person would have to be either detached, or complicit, NOT to see this pattern of MONEY LAUNDERING!

    With all the real NATIONAL problems on our plates, why start there?!

    Here's my scenarios:
    1. Our "reps" will CAVE — because they don't want MORE attacks by the Ds and media as NOT wanting to "create jobs' – as they claim to want to do; DENYING thousands of students their rights to an education; and putting thousands in DANGER of lack of first responders — putting their lives on the line just to PROTECT Wall Street and the corporations!

    The continuing problem w/ this scenario is that "those States" are going to NEED another STIMULUS, in the near future… like when We take back the WH + Senate, where we'll then have to say "NO MORE! It's time to cut spending, and Balance the Budget!" Hello Europe!

    2. They stand FIRM; vote it down; and bunker down for the Obama/media/union shidt-storm!

    It's a game of "Chicken" – at a national scale!

    And that's just ONE SEGMENT, but it's their most important! It's about the MONEY!

  160. Luis522 says:

    Filthy-Harry

    Harry Reid: ‘Private Sector Jobs are Doing Just Fine; It’s the Public Sector Jobs Where We’ve Lost Huge Numbers’

    “The massive layoffs we’ve had in America today-of course they’re rooted in the last administration-and it’s very clear that private sector jobs are doing just fine. It’s the public sector jobs where we’ve lost huge numbers, and that’s what this legislation’s all about. And it’s unfortunate my friend the Republican Leader is complaining about that. I would also note that my friend said the House passed another bill. Well, they pass lots of bills, but they rarely go anyplace.” http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2011/10/19/h

    The Rebuttal

    The EduJobs III Bailout; Update – Harry Reid: Who cares about private sector jobs?

    " Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you are paying attention. Democrats in Washington are turning up the heat on the GOP as they push for quick passage of the “mini” $35 billion union jobs bailout. True to Alinsky form, Team Obama is spinning more emo-narratives centered on saving teachers from layoffs. At a Save the Teachers and Children! press conference yesterday, Senate Dems poured it on thick for their Big Labor pals. So did Joe Biden, who schmoozed it up with a class of fourth graders before turning on the fear-mongering spigot. Ignoring the billions in taxpayer dollars that he’s redistributed to the National Education Association’s pet causes over the last three years, the campaigner-in-chief took to the classroom to bemoan that “We have a tendency to say great things about how important education is in the abstract, but we don’t always put our money where our mouth is.” " By Michelle Malkin • October 19, 2011 http://michellemalkin.com/2011/10/19/the-edujobs-

    FILTHY HARRY: "They pass lots of bills, but they rarely go anyplace”, because there's nothing in it FOR US!

    THAT'S the message, in a nutshell!

  161. RageforOrder says:

    what’s “real” and what’s not http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2011/10/morning-

  162. RageforOrder says:

    CHARTS: Here's What The Wall Street Protesters Are So Angry About… http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-p

  163. RageforOrder says:

    Enter the Dragon: China Takes a Symbolic Step Toward Reserve Status http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/cris-s

  164. RageforOrder says:

    Why Occupy Wall Street Needs to Focus on the Federal Reserve http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/cris-s

  165. RageforOrder says:

    HOLY BAILOUT – Federal Reserve Now Backstopping $75 Trillion Of Bank Of America's Derivatives Trades http://dailybail.com/home/holy-bailout-federal-re

  166. RageforOrder says:

    Blame the Fed for the Financial Crisis
    The Fed fails to grasp that an interest rate is a price, the price of time. Attempting to manipulate that price is as destructive as any other government price control. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204

  167. Luis522 says:

    Time To Put On Your ROBBING-Hoods!

    Robin Hood vs. the Occupiers (condensed)

    ' October 29 is the eve of the G20 Leaders Summit in France, you see, and that's the date on which Adbusters wants its followers to "rise up and demand that our G20 leaders immediately impose a 1 percent ROBIN HOOD tax on all financial transactions and currency trades." The money, say longtime champions of the tax, would go to "fund crucial action against climate change."(1) The Occupiers' message? "We want you to slow down some of that $1.3 trillion easy money that's sloshing around the global casino each day — enough cash to fund every social program and environmental initiative in the world."

    Say what? Panicked governments forked over trillions to rescue politically connected, basket-case banks, and the solution is … punishing individual investors, creating less efficient capital markets, and spreading the wealth around to global-warming zealots and welfare-state overlords?

    Rest assured, the text of the Robin Hood tax manifesto will be chanted in ignorant zombie unison — using the "human microphone" method of call and drone — in dingy occupier camps from NYC to San Francisco and every blue dot in between.

    In any case, if the Occupiers insist on celebrating outright theft from the haves in the name of the have-nots, perhaps they should stop complaining about the pickpockets and looters infesting their camps. Live by "social justice" nursery rhymes. Die by "social justice" crimes. '
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47012

    (1): Global Warming Hoax: STILL Relevant And Dangerous
    http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/profiles/blogs/g

  168. IdahoAnnie says:

    The 5,000 Year Leap Study Group on http://www.rebuildingfreedom.org. Come and join us in a study of Willard Cleon Skousen’s Book “The 5,000 Year Leap”
    First study group meets, Saturday, October 22, 2011. Time 4 PM Pacific. Join us in the group forum.
    If you can’t meet then, don’t worry, the information will be posted in the group. You can tune in when you can, add comments or thoughts and you won’t miss a thing.
    Here is the link to the Study Guide. http://rebuildingfreedom.org/information/informat….

    Hope to see you there,
    Annie

  169. IdahoAnnie says:

    hey we hit the big time and had a mad down thumber hit SOA!

  170. IdahoAnnie says:

    Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best

    quotes about the debt ceiling:

    "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law
    that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all
    sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th
    amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months
    & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in
    1971…before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to
    the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the
    land…all because of public pressure.

    Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
    twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do
    likewise.
    In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
    message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

    *Congressional Reform Act of 2011*

    More in reply

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office
      and receives no pay when they are out of office.

      2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All
      funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
      system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
      and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
      any other purpose.

      3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans
      do.

      4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay
      will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

      More in reply

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
        same health care system as the American people.

        6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
        people.

        7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective
        1/1/12.
        The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen
        made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor,
        not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours
        should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      I like the idea

  171. Luis522 says:

    A fellow TP Patriot brought an important point to light:

    "I really don't think we will make it to the elections in 2012. Democrats like Jesse Jackson Jr. are demanding Obama to suspend the elections…aka Martial Law." http://teapartypatriots.ning.com/forum/topics/new

    cnt'd in reply

    • Luis522 says:

      "Martial Law" cnt'd

      1. OWS is costing taxpayers millions.

      2. Union leaders and commie organ-grinders are herding the crowds, leading chants w/ bullhorns, and poking them like they're wasps nests!

      3. " Merrill’s North American economist, Ethan Harris, wrote in the Friday report. ”Hence, we expect at least one credit downgrade in late November or early December when the super committee crashes.
      Moody’s Investors Service hasn’t said what it will do if there’s no deal, but it has placed U.S. credit under review for a possible downgrade.” http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/10/merr

      4. The democrats socialist policies ARE MONUMENTALLY FAILING! BO and the Ds are hissing in DESPERATION, crying fot a nationwide civil unrest that could trigger martial law.
      But, when?

      5. Obama plans to have the Troops home from Iraq by December.

      FYI

      Constitutional Topic: Martial Law
      ' Martial law should not be confused with military justice. In the United States, for example, each branch of the military has its own judicial structures in place. Members of the service are under the control of military law, and in some cases civilians working for or with the military may be subject to military law. But this is the normal course of business in the military. Martial law is the exception to the rule. In the United States, the military courts were created by the Congress, and cases can be appealed out of the military system to the Supreme Court in many cases. In addition, a civilian court can petition the military for habeas corpus.

      Article 1, Section 9 states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." Habeas corpus is a concept of law, in which a person may not be held by the government without a valid reason for being held. A writ of habeas corpus can be issued by a court upon a government agency (such as a police force or the military). Such a writ compels the agency to produce the individual to the court, and to convince the court that the person is being reasonably held. The suspension of habeas corpus allows an agency to hold a person without a charge. Suspension of habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.

      Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President's imposition of martial law, which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.

      In the United States, there is precedent for martial law. Several times in the course of our history, martial law of varying degrees has been declared. The most obvious and often-cited example was when President Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War. This instance provides us with most of the rules for martial law that we would use today, should the need arise.

      ex parte Milligan

      On September 15, 1863, Lincoln imposed Congressionally-authorized martial law. The authorizing act allowed the President to suspend habeas corpus throughout the entire United States. Lincoln imposed the suspension on "prisoners of war, spies, or aiders and abettors of the enemy," as well as on other classes of people, such as draft dodgers. The President's proclamation was challenged in ex parte Milligan (71 US 2 [1866]). The Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln's imposition of martial law (by way of suspension of habeas corpus) was unconstitutional. '

      Readeth rest of the article at: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html

      The question is: Can it happen? Well, I've learned that, w/ the horrors that occurred on Sept 11th, 2001, ANYTHING is possible!

      Hope for the best, but PREPARE for the worse!

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      thanks Luis, good work

  172. Luis522 says:

    An Email Sent To Rush
    (Oct 25, 2011)

    Set Up:
    A disgruntled Huck supporter, and present Palin supporter, ashed Rush "who would Palin endorse, and why hasn't she hasn't gotten behind someone, yet"?

    My Email To Rush:

    Why would he, or anybody, about the thoughts of a THIRD PERSON?! In this case, Palin.

    Callers get upset because you won't get behind a candidate; or, to be more precise, "THEIR" candidate – whomever it is!

    I remember that, after the '06 Election, where the Repubs LOST IT ALL, you had said, "I will no longer hold the water…". I understood that, even then! I understand it, even more so, today!

    Palin has a rare quality — she learns. So, my answer to that Palin-callers question, as soon as I heard it, was: "Just ask the Jersey-boy, Gov Chris Christie! He quickly jumped on board Romney's campaign; losing A LOT of credibility, at least w/ me, and other true conservatives, along the way.

    Has it helped Mitt significantly enough to push him way out ahead of the others? NOPE! Romney is struggling as hard as ever.
    Christie, on the other hand, has isolated himself on "Romney Island". I hope he can at least float!

    - Luis522

  173. Luis522 says:

    The STUPOR Committee's 5/30 Plan

    ' WASHINGTON – A proposal to get rid of the $1 bill in favor of a $1 coin could save the United States more than $5 billion, according to information from a government subcommittee.

    The move would cost more money in the short term, the committee said, but would eventually save money over time because coins do not need to be replaced as often as paper currency. …*

    They're considering THAT seriously?! These monkeys really ARE a "STUPOR" committee!

    Here's where they REALLY bury themselves in primate doo-doo:

    ' The move to $1 coins could save about $5.6 billion over 30 years, the accountability office said.

    The Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction has a Nov. 23 deadline to come up with a plan to meet a $1.5 trillion debt-limit goal, '

    Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/national/proposa

    ROTFL!
    I laugh in pure ANGER! Lets do the math $5B of $1.6T comes out to LESS THAN .04% (FOUR HUNDREDTHS OF "ONE" PERCENT)! — And that's in 30 YEARS
    ( Or roughly $168 MILLION a year! ) The taxpayers pay roughly $30 BILLION A MONTH alone in INTEREST to the DEBT!

    Do the morons in Congress think we're STUPID?! Are we supposed to be PLACATED by a POCKET FULL OF "CHANGE"

    3 Words:
    FLAGRANT INCOMPETENCE and COMPLICITNESS!

    (they can SHOVE those rolls of coins up their debbie WAZZOOmans ! )

  174. RageforOrder says:

    What Have We Gotten For The Trillion Dollars We Have Spent On Wars In Afghanistan, Iraq And Libya? http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/what-

  175. topshot says:

    Another crowning moment for the man who holds the second highest job in the government and who is next in line.

    Talk about an embarrassment to the country, one good thing about Joe is you know when he is lying because his lips move. It was pathetic to see him act like a deer caught in the headlights of a speeding semi. It was even worse when his office complained about being ambushed because he wasn't prepped in advance of the question and given a canned answer. His facts were all wrong and it was easily proved. In actuality crime in the city has gone down across the board this year but I guess that doesn't lend itself to slamming the Republicans. Isn't it terrible when real facts get in the way of Liberal propaganda.
    http://youtu.be/fxxotkX9ZOo

    Do you need another reason to get out and vote? Do you really want this freak show to continue? It's time to get out there and do something, we have downloads available for hand out cards, use them to draw people here to read and join in the fight.

    Topshot

  176. Hobbes says:

    This is sooo funny … oh the irony …. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zucc

  177. Hobbes says:

    And the laughs just keep on coming … http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011

  178. topshot says:

    A few quotes from the Founding Fathers that seem appropriate for this time. These great men truly saw the future problems that would plague our great nation.

    "By removing the Bible from schools we would be wasting so much time and money in punishing criminals and so little pains to preventing crime. Take the Bible out of our schools and there would be an explosion in crime" Benjamin Rush

    "Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not" Thomas Jefferson

    "These are times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in a crisis, shrink from the service of their country, but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem to lightly;it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how toput a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial as article as freedom should not be highly rated" Thomas Paine

    Topshot

  179. Luis522 says:

    NEED TO KNOW about HHS and Obamney Care

    I recv'd this from Rep Vern Buchanan (R-FL13th)

    When ObamaCare was signed into law 18 months ago, it amounted to an unconstitutional takeover of health care in America. The program is now beginning to unravel.
    Health and Human Services Secretary (HHS) Kathleen Sebelius recently notified Congress that the long-term care program within ObamaCare, officially known as the Community Living Assistance Services and Supports (CLASS) program, will be shelved. Despite assurances before the bill passed, HHS could not design CLASS to be affordable, self-funding, and sustainable.
    Even worse, when ObamaCare was originally enacted, the White House claimed that CLASS would save $86 billion – 40% of the bill's total cost savings. HHS Secretary Sebelius’ decision to shelve CLASS means there is now an $86 billion “hole” in the financial foundation of ObamaCare.
    ObamaCare is failing. An independent study by McKinsey and Co. found that 30% of employers will likely drop health care coverage once the law is fully in effect. Furthermore, health insurance premiums are rising and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects ObamaCare will not control health care costs over the long run.
    Earlier this year, I voted to repeal and defund ObamaCare. I will continue to support common-sense reforms to our health care system that make health insurance more affordable for families in Florida.

    Vern

    I replied:

    Dear Congressman,
    Thanks for keeping us up to date.
    But I will not feel either satisfied, or relieved, with simply the "sheliving" of this "part" of the Law. It's as comforting as listening to some of the candidates say that they'd use an "Executive Order" to deactivate it!

    I'll risk redundance and say just one word:

    REPEAL!

  180. topshot says:

    Obama’s Middle East Foreign Policy and the War on Terror.

    It is amazing that the Liberal Media and I agree that Obama’s Middle East foreign policy and the War on Terror have been extremely successful but for many different reasons. Mr. Obama has been lauded for his success in using UAV’s to target and kill terrorist leaders ( a dead terrorist can not be interrogated to reveal necessary intelligence ) but fail to mention that the program was developed and put into place by Bush and in at least one case helped in the change of a government. Whether this was good or bad remains to be seen but at least one sponsor of terrorism was eliminated. Of course big prize in his collection is of course Osama Bin Laden and other terrorist leaders and purveyors of terrorism against the United States of America. On the surface these deeds seem very laudable, but that is only if person believes Mr. Obama’s intent and purpose was and is the protection of our country. I do not share that opinion because I believe that when he got elected had and still has ulterior motives for everything he has done so far and plans to do in whatever political future he has remaining. Remember his brazen promise that he was going to “ Fundamentally transform America “. So far he and his Progressive friends have been incredibly successful and it may take a generation to repair all the damage.

    Many of you know me from other sites and know I am not one prone to believing or advancing conspiracy theories, in fact many times I have gone to great lengths to dispel and disprove them. My reasons for not believing Mr. Obama’s intentions are for the good of the country come down to my belief that in reality Mr. Obama is a dedicated Muslim. Now before you label me as a Islamaphobe or Conspiracy Nut allow me to put forth my thoughts.

    If you look at his actions just since he has been office as those of a dedicated Muslim you will see how those actions correspond with that of one who is a committed follower of the Islamic Faith and the teachings of Mohammad. A dedicated Muslim’s main purpose is to advance that Islam is the one religion above all religions and is the only true religion. This is to be accomplished by teaching the infidels that their beliefs are in error and teaching the word of Mohammad to the entire world. If this fails then infidels are to be either subjected to forced servitude or are to be killed in the name of Allah. It is well know that the Muslim world considers the United States the Big Satan and Israel as the Little Satan. In the Muslims mind both countries need to be conquered or destroyed. Israel is a small country in the midst of Muslim nations and is under constant attack from Islamic extremists. Although Israel is very strong militarily the general thought is that they can and will be destroyed and Israel's land divided among the true believers.

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    • topshot says:

      The United States on the other hand is far removed from the geographical proximity of the Middle East so an armed invasion is out of the question because of the military might of the United States. Terrorist attacks although capable of causing some injuries and deaths and psychological distress still could not bring down the government. On the other hand if they could strategically place a person in the White House then the downfall of America is within the realm of possibility. The great strength of America has always been our economy and it’s ability to be resilient in times of economic distress. The systematic destruction of our economy is plain to see if you are willing to look at the actions of Mr. Obama. The excessive spending and stimulus packages have racked up more National Debt than all other Presidents in history COMBINED. His anti- business stance and over control has brought the business world to a standstill as far as investments and employment is concerned. The business and banking world are holding their investment money because they have no idea what kind of increased taxes and regulations this out of control administration will levy on them. Business's both large and small are in a hiring freeze because of the implementation of Obama Care and the massive costs they would have to absorb to comply with the vague and complex programs they will have to institute. Confusion runs rampant because of the excessive size and complexity of the Bill passed by the Democrats. Remember Nancy Pelosi’s statement to “ We have to pass the Bill so you can find out what is in it “ Although National Health Care has been proven not work in every country it has been tried in,Mr. Obama persisted in passing a Bill he knew would not only help to foster more unemployment but would also bankrupt our country. Couple that with the class warfare this administration is pushing and the end result might very well be Anarchy. Look at what is happening with the protesters against Wall Street. Once again class warfare is the goal to separate Americans and cause mayhem. The protester's are funded and helped in their organizing by the likes of George Soros. Move on .Org, and some Unions who are willing partners with an administration that has shown it will sell out America to pay back the unions for their support. Just a couple of the unions represented and supporting the protesters is the AFL/CIO, New York Transit Workers Union, United Federation of Teachers, Workers United and of course the notorious Service Employees International Union ( S.E.I.U. ). The Obama administration has very close ties with these and many more unions as they are a large block of their support both financially and at the voting booth. This administration has also gone out of its way to show support for the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) with support shown on national TV by Mr. Obama, Mr. Biden and Nancy Pelosi. With the support of these high administration officials and the Liberal News Media the protesters have been emboldened in their radical agenda of destroying Democracy and replacing it with Socialism. Now TV film crews have been threatened and prevented from filming the center of the crowds and allowed to only film the periphery. Perhaps this is so the pot smoking and open sex is not shown to the American public. Fully one third of the OWS protesters think that violence if acceptable to further their cause. Thousands have been arrested around the country and now liberal lawyers are threatening to “ Clog the system “ by insisting on jury trials for all those arrested. Just one more way to cause trouble in their effort to destroy what we have come to expect as the American way of life.

      You also have an administration that seeks to divide American along racial lines. Look at how the United States Attorney General ( Eric Holder ) has filed lawsuits and put up roadblocks to and against states trying to solve the massive immigration problems they are facing. How people within the Attorney Generals own office have come forth to expose the flagrant orders to not pursue voting fraud and intimidation. Remember that the AG even sought to hold terrorist on trial that are being held at Gitmo, affording Enemy Combatants the protection of our Judicial System they are not entitled to. I could spend hours listing all the things Mr. Obama has done and is doing to undercut our most sacred document The Constitution of the United States of America.

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      • topshot says:

        I will now explain why I feel Mr. Obama’s Foreign Policy and War on Terror has been nothing but a sham perpetrated on the citizens of our country. The liberal news media has also been complicit in painting the efforts of Mr. Obama as nothing short of miraculous. Here is a man who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything even remotely to forwarding peace in the world. Everyone is familiar with Mr. Obamas famed apology tour of the world where he apologised for our past failings with out expounding the great humanitarian sacrifices we as a country and people have made to make the world better and safer place. America has always lent a helping hand whether it was because of a natural disaster or protection from a foreign aggressor. How during two world wars this country spent it’s blood and riches to stop the threat’s that would destroy countries and enslave whole populations. Was this noble venture worthy of being soiled by a world wide apology tour? Was the sacrifice of so many Americans who lost their lives or gave so much to be apologized for? America has also not forced those who sought our help to pay back the huge financial expenditures it made or sought to take possession of the land we set free. After WW2 the United States even went to the extraordinary extent of rebuilding those aggressive countries who we had defeated and also rebuilding those countries ravaged by war. For all the good that this country has done Mr. Obama had the unmitigated gall to apologize for Americas shortcomings. and imagined transgressions.

        Now I will attempt to dispel all this talk of how successful Mr. Obama has been in the areas of Foreign Affairs and the War on Terror. The White House and media would have you believe that Mr. Obama has solved all the problems in the Middle East and has advanced the course of Peace and International Relations around the world. In actuality Mr. Obama has done the complete opposite and continues on his quest to isolate the United States from it’s historic allies and embrace the enemies of our country. His arrogance in dealing with Great Britain has brought our relationship with this long time Ally to a precarious place. He and his wife insulted the Queen of England and then had the audacity to give her an IPod containing speech's he had given in the past and later returned a statue of Winston Churchill. Mr. Obama has also refused to meet with Israels Prime Minister in favor of meeting instead with leader of the Palestinian Authority. Now on to some of the so called high points of Mr. Obama’s Foreign Policy fiasco's.

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          Remember now look at this through the eyes of a devout Muslim and how these actions could forward their intention for the destruction of America. Now many will say there is no proof that Mr. Obama is a Muslim and that in fact he himself has claimed to be a Christian. As to whether he is or is not a Muslim, all have to make that decision themselves. I will put forth this, as a child Mr. Obama attended a Madrasah ( Islamic school of religion ) and was described as a devout student and Muslim schooled in the teachings of Mohammad. One of the greatest sins a Muslim can commit is to walk away from the faith and embrace another. That is considered Apostasy ( a Ridda, ie turning back ) and has only one punishment and that punishment is death. The last time I looked Mr. Obama was on the fundraising trail looking fit and trim and full of himself. Let us look at his actions regarding the Middle Eastern Countries involved in the Arab Spring and who he supported and who he didn't and why. If as I say Mr. Obama is a Muslim then one of his greatest tasks is the destruction of the Jews and the State of Israel. The other would be the same fate for the United States. Let’s look at the State of Israel first. Mr. Obama’s suggestion that Israel return to the 1967 borders was preposterous on it’s face and it was solely designed to reduce the size of Israel’s land. It also would have made Israel’s defensive positions indefensible due to the close proximity of hostile Arab nations. Mr. Omama also was pushing for the Palestine Authority to be recognized by the U.N. and given a seat to establish it’s legitimacy as a nation. Israel has offered many times to sit down with Palestinian leaders to discuss these matters but the Palestinians have refused their offer and still call for the destruction of Israel and it’s people. Mr. Obama has also called not only for the stoppage of new Israeli settlements but for the Jews to hand over to the Palestinian people all of the settlements they have built to this date. Mr. Obama has also tried to move America away from Israel as an historic Ally. He has stonewalled on the Iranian nuclear development problem hoping they would produce a nuclear device. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if Iran possessed a nuclear bomb? First and foremost it would be used to intimidate the Israeli's which in itself would totally destabilize the region because it is well know that Israel posses approximately 300 nuclear weapons of it’s own. You have a bunch of very rich countries that would immediately embark on purchasing nuclear weapons of their own and you have Russia, China, North Korea and Pakistan who would be willing providers of not only the weapons themselves but the vehicles to deliver them. While the U.S and the Soviet Union survived years of nuclear posturing both countries were well aware of the M.A.D. ( Mutually Assured Destruction) threat posed by both countries neither had a wish to intentionally embark down that road. With Muslim Theology teaching that it is fast track to heaven to Martyr oneself for the cause of Islam how long do you think it would take for some radical terrorist to transport a bomb the anyplace in the world and detonate it?

          • topshot says:

            Now let us look at Mr. Obama’s actions concerning the Arab Spring movement and his desire for the moderate Arab States to be taken over by radical Muslims. I will talk about just two but with a little research you will find the same thing happening in every Arab country in the region. Egypt was the first country to be racked by national anti-government demonstrations. While Mubarak was not the ruler that we would have desired he did maintain a static peaceful relationship with the West AND with Israel. This was an intolerable situation for the radicals and Mr. Obama was none to slow in calling for the Egyptian President to step down and allow immediate elections with the Muslim Brotherhood ready to step in and radicalize the new government. Christians in Egypt were allowed to practice their religion and were afforded some semblance of safety. Have you seen the news lately and seen Christian churches burned to the ground and Christians murdered in the streets while the military stood by and did nothing. Now there is a mass exodus of Christians out of Egypt fearing for their very lives.

            Next was Libya and it’s 40 + year dictator Moammar Qaddafi who was a sworn enemy of the United States. Where was Mr. Obama when the resistance pleaded for help to oust this Mad Dog? At that time the U.S. could have exerted significant pressure to quickly remove Qaddafi and ensure at least a partially friendly new government. But Mr. Obama choose to sit by and let the Allies do the major lifting which they were not capable of effectively doing without sufficient support from Americas military. We now have a situation in Libya where the radical Muslims will seize power and there will be another extremely anti American and anti Israel government. Without proper control over Libya's weapons approximately 30,000 handheld SAMS (Surface to Air Missiles) are now unaccounted for. How safe will you now feel flying on any plane military or commercial? Who’s hands do you think these weapons are in now and what do you think their intentions might be?

            All I ask of you is to consider the things I have suggested, look at Mr. Obama’s actions since he has taken office. How many previous President’s have bowed to Foreign Heads of State? It is my firm belief that Mr. Obama is a devote Muslim and is pursuing a path that will lead to the destruction of this Nation as we know it. As a Marine Veteran it sickens me to see the great nation that I and others have fought for and so many died for to be sold out to the Radical Muslims. Their intent is to overthrow our Democracy and establish Sharia Law as the law of the land. Think it is impossible? Take a close look at the British, French, Italians and most European countries and see how the Muslims have established a strong foothold in each of them. We are next and they have a willing accomplice now serving as President of the United States to facilitate a rapid overthrow. of our nation. THINK before you cast your vote in the 2012 Presidential Election, do you really want to give this man 4 more years to destroy our country or are you going to opt to make a REAL CHANGE FOR GOOD?

            Topshot
            Special thanks to Old Marine for his help in editing

    • Luis522 says:

      Very good post!

      "it [may] take a generation to repair all the "damage". "

      [] wrong verb, imo. it should say [will].

      If we define the term "damage", in this case, as to being all inclusive
      ( nat'l security, ecobonic/currency, and socieatal), at this point, it will take a generation (25-30 yrs) — at the least.
      That's w/ out factoring in major natural events, and/or another 9/11-level attack, or higher. The only thing I would categorize as "higher" would be nuclear, and/or man-caused chemical and/or biological attacks. (One or all are very probable – depending on the course/policies we take – especially after 2012! )

      "Islamaphobe"

      "phobe"
      I am s fed up w/ the pc chickensh*t terms that are used to try to SHUT people UP!
      Whoever's opposed to our fed govt taking a position on gay-marriage, or siding with Israel's right to their sovereignty, or even exist, is labelled either a homo-, or an Islama-"phobe" — which is just another liberal term for "intolerant", and/or "racist". But it's not so if the verbal and physical attacks are committed against Israel, Jews, Christians, or even flag-waving Americans!
      The stench f hypocrisy climbs like a volcanic BLAST, yet at almost half of the US population, and I'd say MORE THAN two thirds of the world population, are indifferent about the matter.

      Hmmm… Maybe I should've said "AT LEAST a generation", instead!

      I believe that Iran will wait patiently, as they always have, until they have several operational nukes that they could smuggle into our southern border, and use against Israel – simultainsously. The world is a giant chss board, and THEY ARE the MASTER players.

      Many out there, not excluding any candidates, that Iran wouldn't be crazy enough to coommit such a suicidal act. That if the USSR or China hasn't done it – neither will they! But, then again, Chamberlain believed Hitlers promise (Treaty), also!

      "???!!!" Here we go again!
      Hello! MANY of their clerics have said that they "love death"?! Iran's dictators are true BELIEVERS of accelerating the return of their "12th Imam" or "Mahdi". For this reason alone they BELIEVE that destiny is in therf favor!

      Maybe the question that should be asked is:

      WILL WE MAKE IT to the next generation?

      • topshot says:

        Luis, I agree with your analogy completely. We are not dealing with a normal enemy, we are dealing with an enemy that makes the Japanese look like heretics when it comes to giving one's life for the cause. The Japanese did it for Honor, the Muslims do it because their Faith demands it. As our military found out in WW2 dealing with the Japanese Kamikaze, it is most difficult to defend against an enemy who is willing to sacrifice his/her life for their belief. The Muslim mind works like that of the Chinese, they think only of the end result and put no restraining time line on it. They are patient and they are dedicated and time is n their side. Unfortunately PC is a way of life here and around the world and it blinds people to the true intent of Islam. It is comforting for people to think that there are "Good" Muslims who abhor violence and seek to only live in peace. If people would only investigate the Koran they would find out that for a dedicated follower of Mohammad there are only two types of people. True Believers and Infidels, Infidels are to be dealt with in one of three ways, Conversion, Total Submission or Death. That is it, there are no other options.

        Until the World realizes the Muslims will continue to gain strength and control, their collective eyes will be blinded. The United States and Israel must be destroyed for the Muslim's plans of world domination can be completed. With a willing (and in my estimation true believer in the White House) President now in power the world has truly become a most dangerous place for not only our country but the entire world.

        Thanks for your thoughts

        Topshot
        Semper Fi

    • ebarnes says:

      Top, I agree with you post. We are in a world of hurt now. I am not sure we can ever recover from it. This is not the America I have known growing up. It has taken years for these changes to happen, and I really don't know if it can be stopped. I hope we can save our country, I hope folks wake up. Thank you for your thoughts.

  181. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Perhaps I am wrong but I feel that Rep Issa and his committee are the only ones in Congress fighting for what we believe in. I am sure there are others but they are not in the news enough for me. I want lots of headlines and lots of news casts exposing the truth. And, yes, I can handle the truth. I want to see many fired, jailed and dirty deeds undone.

    • Luis522 says:

      PE1, Rep Issa and his committee ARE doing their best – considering the high power obstacles in their way. Our reps are VERY ltd w/ human resources.

      Having the WH just ISN'T going to be enough! 2012 is going to have to be ALL OR NOTHING, gang!

      Also, whoever wins the nom is going to have to win by significant numbers. We CAN'T have a repeat of Bush/Gore 2000! The black population is already being conditioned to believe that the loss will be "a black thing". I see A LOT of trouble coming! The Rodney King riots are going to look like a carnival i comparison!

      (I wonder if the Election would be skewed in BOzo's favor if it's THAT close! I also wonder if he'll REFUSE to relinquish the Chair – and use the rampage of rioters as his ace-in-the-hole?!

      Look at how the fmr wannabe dictator of Honduras, Zelaya tried it. The difference is that the population didn't go buckwild; and their SC and military ousted Zelaya IMMEDATELY!

      Wow! I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but — I hope and wish that OUR govt will have THAT KIND of INTEGRITY if THAT sh*t ever hits our fan! )

      • PatriotEagle1 says:

        Luis, I expect corrupt elections coming up and I agree that if we do not have a large majority, there will be enough vote tampering that the results will be, well, you know. I expect intimidation supreme and riots well placed and timed to have effect. This admin will not go out easily. We must win or the resulting consequences will not be of our liking.

  182. RageforOrder says:

    16 Reasons Why Mitt Romney Would Be A Really, Really Bad President http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/16-reas

  183. topshot says:

    9 Brave Heroes made the ULTIMATE SACRIFICE to protect the country they loved. Let us not forget them.

    #USMC #TCOT #SOT ☛We are asking everyone to say a prayer for "Darkhorse" 3rd Battalion, 5th
    Marines and their families. They are fighting it out in Afghanistan and have
    lost 9 marines in 4 days. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE the message spread if more
    could pass it on. Nothing in the media about these guys and it is hard to
    understand why???????

    Justin Allen, 23,
    Brett Linley, 29,
    Matthew Weikert, 29,
    Justus Bartett, 27,
    Dave Santos, 21,
    Chase Stanley, 21
    Jesse Reed, 26,
    Matthew Johnson, 21,
    Zachary Fisher, 24,
    Brandon King, 23,
    Christopher Goeke, 23,
    Sheldon Tate, 27,
    All are Marines that gave their lives for you this week.
    Please Honor THEM by forwarding this.

    Prayer for Those Who Have Fallen in Battle

    All Powerful God,
    We honor today those men and women—
    Our sons and daughters,
    Husbands and wives,
    Fathers, brothers, sisters, mothers—
    Who have laid down their life for their country.

    Whether weary or emboldened, quiet or defiant,
    Vulnerable or ready when You called them home,
    Their sacrifice is too humbling for words
    except these uttered in prayer.

    Loving Lord, bless them forever in Your eternal peace.
    Let the sounds of strife, the cries of battle, the wounds of war
    be calmed for all eternity in Your loving and endless grace.
    Let these great warriors find rest at last,
    Ever reminded that we who are left behind
    Cherish their spirit, honor their commitment,
    send them our love,
    and will never forget the service that they gave.

    Please pass this on.
    Thank You

    Semper Fi

    • Luis522 says:

      Lord, without our brave fighters, there would've been no United States, and no Constitution. Mankind would not have known about Liberty.

      Only the very Breath of Your Spirit could give the strength and selflessness necessary to overcome the fears of physical, and spiritual, defeat.

      You sacrificed Your only Son to save mankind. Our Troops continue to fight. They may not always understand their orders, but they do understand their purpose. LIBERTY.

      Thank you, Lord.

      Amen

  184. Luis522 says:

    (Note: souced > slang for drunk, drunken, inebriated.

    Keep this in mind as you read on.)

    EXTRA! EXTRA!
    ' POLLUTICO has reporred that souces have come forward to inform them that lawsuits may have, probably, or even perhaps, been filed against the M&M characters – not for any direct physical assault or even food poisoning, but brcase of a supposed innuendo.

    The souces claim that they were offended by the implication that the message in the commercial makes whwew a person is accused of having "hungry eyes".

    The souces supposedly said that they felt that the implication was offensive, degrading, hurtful, and whatever else would help them get more press coverage, and take the focus away from the FAILED Obama policies that are collapsing our economy, the sinking poll numbers, Holder's problems, and much more .

    When asked about its "soucse", the POLLUTICO's stand is don't reveal anything that doesn't destroy the Right, or puts our Troops at risk, or under arrest.
    The M&M characters' statement was, "This is the stupidest thing that we have ever heard outside of a Biden speech! ". '

    Anal Polyps, a spokesman for the POLLUTICO, said that they completely believe the claims by the souces to be valid ones. "Big Chocolate MUST be punished!". he said. '

    Why not?! It makes as much sense as the new charge against Herman Cain does!

    Unlike the Left's ever-false claims, the scandals w/ SOLYNDRA, FAST N FURIOUS, ACORN, Fann/Fredd . . . are ALL FACTUAL!

    So, not even a "nice try", by POLITICO and the other dizzy-dems!
    <[8-D=
    - Luis522

    • topshot says:

      Gee Luis I thought the word Innuendo was an Italian form of Preparation H and with this administration we need cases of the stuff.

      • Luis522 says:

        LOL!
        "In-your-endO!"

        Cases?! I'll see that, and raise you w/ a high colonic!

        ( Well, I've certainly hit rock bottom with this one, huh! :-D )

    • gladimamerican says:

      I heard the southern Poverty Law Center declared taste buds a terrorist organization!

      • Luis522 says:

        "taste buds"…
        For a second I thought that it was a new opening for Quality Control at Anheiser – Busch (INBEV)! I was gonna say "I'M IN!"! :-D

  185. IdahoAnnie says:

    Human history began with an act of disobedience, and it is not unlikely that it will be terminated by an act of obedience. ~ Erich Fromm

    • Luis522 says:

      That is interesting. I had said in many posts that the very first war started when Cain killed his brother Abel. Also, the population has been siding with evil since the Garden of Eden. But it couldn't've been more obvious than when the mob chose to save Barabbas' life over Christ Jesus.

      Mankind will not get us out of this mess. It never has. The frightening part is that it's by choice!

      All that the politicians have ever done is delay the inevitable ("kicking the can") so that the system doesn't collapse during "their" lifetime. Has the can finally fallen in the gutter?!

  186. Luis522 says:

    Ahmadinejad – Islam will rule the world
    ' President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad finished his recent trip to Malaysia with this statement, “The world will be in the hands of Islam over the next few years.” In a surprising statement, he believes Libya will be a strong partner with Iran. ' http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2006/03

    Did you catch that?! "Libya [will be] a strong partner". Momo didn't say "might" or "may become". He said "will be". Why is this important? The article was posted on March 6, 2006.

    THe Charter of the Islamic Resistance (Hamas) calls for the destruction of Israel.
    Abbas petitions Latin America

    It’ll be an interesting test of how independent the region feels from the United States, which has placed itself squarely on the side of Israel.
    Economic growth in Latin America, and greater ties to China and with other Latin American countries, may have created the space some countries would need to go against American policy on this issue. http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-b

    This article was posted way way back on October 11, 2011 The relevance of all this is that our economic stability is tantamount to our nat'l security. As our economy/currency continues to disappear and lose value, such can be the case w/ our Latin American allies.
    We may have THE high tech military toys — but, for how long? China bought HUMVEE And GE's moving it's aero division to China — classified information, and all! Iran will nukes soon enough; and they WILL use them.

    Palestinian Chairman Abbas: I Will ‘Never Recognize’ a ‘Jewish State’

    Is this some 15 yr old non-story transformed to a current scandal? No. This article is dated November 1, 2011.

    Being safe, and FEELING safe, will be a huge influence on my choice for POTUS.
    Barack Insane Obama and the Ds have done enough to ruinn, and SCARE America, for many years to come.
    I want to feel safe again. Am I asking for too much?!

  187. Hobbes says:

    If you watch TLC you may want to change the channel and fast. The station is advertising a new program (or should I say, a new propaganda program) called ALL AMERICAN MUSLIM. The ads show women in burkas and anti-Muslim graffiti on walls of buildings. What better way to bring Islamism and Sharia Law into the mainstream then an alleged reality show! (?)

  188. OldMarine says:

    The following was read on the air 45 years ago, in 1964, by radio personality Paul Harvey. It merits a reading today

    "America has become a cannibal society, devouring its best. The competent, numerically outnumbered by the incompetents, are being corralled, restrained, confined and milked like barnyard cattle. The giants who created our skyscraper civilization are now ordered to obey Lilliputian bureaucrats. Common men—who owe their jobs to uncommon men who create jobs—gang together to shackle their providers.

    Americans are becoming congenital dependents. Even as loafing relatives extort a livelihood by claiming they have a “right” to your money—so today eight million homegrown moochers insist that you are responsible for their welfare! Thus, we subsidize promiscuous mothers and their illegitimate babies and lazy feather bedders and goldbricking government pay rollers…While we penalize the strong, the purposeful, the productive with disproportionate burdens of taxes, pressures, red tape.

    We praise ventures which are “non-profit” and grant them tax advantages and social acceptance, yet we damn the men who make the profits which make the “non-profit” ventures possible. Americans want to keep the electric lights but destroy the generators. What if the men of brains and initiative and industry should go on strike?

    It happened once. “The Dark Ages” were a period of stagnation when men of exceptional ability gave up, figured “what’s the use?” and went underground—for a thousand years. Ayn Rand, author of “Atlas Shrugged,” thinks it may have to happen that way again. Dr. Charles Mayo says, “I know of no individual, no nation, that ever did anything worthwhile on a five-day week.” Already many American industrialists are turning the keys on their corporations and going to Florida—either part-time or full-time—to become non-productive beachcombers.

    Curiously, Russia is beginning to reward the uncommon men. Soviet scholar Vadim A. Trapeznikov—not without Kremlin sanction—is now referring to the Soviet system as “obsolete.” He says Russia’s economy must now rely on the “more productive profit motive.” We, on the other hand, continue to play the democratic con-game which pretends that all men are equal and that anybody who demonstrates any inequality should be punished for it.

    Any insolent beggar can wave his sores in your face and plead for help in the tone of a threat. You are expected to feel “guilty” for having more than he. Any barefoot bum from the pestholes of Asia or Africa cries out, “How dare you be rich!” And we beg them to be patient and we promise to give it all away as fast as possible.

    The economic creed of “enlightened selfishness” which made our nation the powerhouse of this planet has been so maligned that now it sounds like heresy when I say:

    Any man who claims you owe him a living is a cannibal.

    Whether foreign or domestic, he is a cannibal.

    If you choose to help him, that is one thing.

    If he demands you “help” as his “right,” he is a leech,

    a sycophant, a parasite.

    He is a cannibal seeking to survive by consuming you."

    Source <a href="http://:http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2009/05/the-cannibal-society/” target=”_blank”>:http://www.laborunionreport.com/portal/2009/05/the-cannibal-society/

    • ebarnes says:

      Good post OM. It is so sad that our country has gotten to the point that it is the weak that actually have the power. It reminds me of the Spartan movie "300". We are only as strong as our weakest link. Our country is full of weak links now. Those who are strong are asked to sacrifice for those that are weak. While those who are the leeches of society are given all they need for doing nothing to contribute.

  189. PatriotEagle1 says:

    So what is obama up to since the focus has moved away from him to OWS and holder? What great surprises await us just around the corner? I am sure he (and his team) are working fast and furious on something that will really tick us off and further injure our great Country. Van jones and bill ayers are doing their parts for their causes. reid and pelosi are keeping their word. hillary is up to something big. Lack of green energy jobs and bad investments are getting some press. But what is o up to? Too quiet. I expect executive orders to pop up.

  190. Luis522 says:

    OWS: A Tickertape Parade ala ACORN!

    ACORN Officials Scramble, Firing Workers and Shredding Documents, After Exposed as Players Behind Occupy Wall Street Protests

    ' Officials with the revamped ACORN office in New York — operating as New York Communities for Change — have fired staff, shredded reams of documents and told workers to blame disgruntled ex-employees for leaking information in an effort to explain away a FoxNews.com report last week on the group’s involvement in Occupy Wall Street protests, according to sources.

    NYCC also is installing surveillance cameras and recording devices at its Brooklyn offices, removing or packing away supplies bearing the name ACORN and handing out photos of Fox News staff with a stern warning not to talk to the media, the sources said.

    ~snip~

    “‘That’s the story that we’re sticking to,’” Westin said, according to the source.

    The source said staffers at the meeting contested Westin’s denial:

    “It was pretty funny. Jonathan told staff they don’t pay for protesters, but the people in the meeting who work there objected and said, ‘Wait, you pay us to go to the protests every day?’ Then Jonathan said ‘No, but that’s your job,’ and staffers were like, ‘Yeah, our job is to protest,’ and Westin said, ‘No your job is to fight for economic and social justice. We just send you to protest.’

    “Staff said, ‘Yes, you pay us to carry signs.’ Then Jonathan says, ‘That’s your job.’ It went on like that back and forth for a while.” ' http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2802076/post

    Lets see now… Obamney Care, Dodd/Fwank, bailouts/stimulus, union slush, Sulyndra, Solar, the double – F's (Fann/Fredd + Fast n Furious ), ACORN, OWS…

    Yup! Imo, it's official. The United States of America has been fundamentally transformed into a totally corrupt banana republic!

  191. Luis522 says:

    L522 NEWS: An Interview With A Cain Victim
    A Satire

    I'm here live with a Odina Buttler. He, or she, has bravely come forward with ,errrr, it's Herman Cain ordeal.
    L522: Thank you for coming forward, Odina.
    Odina: Thank YOU!
    L522: I'm guessing that Odina Buttler isn't your real name. Am I right?
    Odina: Yes, you are, L.
    L522: Are you wearing a partial fur on the lower half of your face to cover your identity?
    Odina: Oops! (she touches her face) Sorry! Five o'clock shadow.
    L522: But, it's only 8:15 in the morning! (ahem) Anyway, tell us what happened.

    Odina: Well, it happened three days ago. I was hustl… I was having a few drinks in a bar, when it hit me. Well, I was a little bored, being that there weren't any johns…PEOPLE! There weren't any people to talk to. I was feeling kinda typsy, after my sixth double. I noticed something strange happening on the TV screen.
    L522: TV screen?
    Odina: Yeah! He started calling out my name!
    L522: He?! He, who?!
    Odina: Cain! Herman Cain! I felt like he was sending me a personal message.
    Mr Cain started coming on to me! He said I was perty, and…
    L522: "Perty"?! I mean, pretty? Really! How many drinkies did you say you had?
    Odina: I lost count after my eleventh – double. Anyways. I started getting uncomfortable when Cain started saying nine, nine, nine. It sounded like he was asking for something freaky…
    L522: And Cain's on the TV screen, right?! Got it. Okay. So, what did you do, Odina?
    Odina: I was told I screamed from the top of my lungs, and that I took off like a bat outta hell!
    L522: What about Cain?!
    Odina: I swear he chased me, but nobody will step up in my behalf! It's unfair…
    L522: So, that's it?! You drank yourself to obkivion. Started hallucinating. And took off in a drunken frenzy?! THAT'S your story, Odina?!
    Odina: No, no, no! I found myself in an alley, and I was cornered by what looked like Perry dressed…
    L522: Perry, now?! But…
    Odina: Please, L, don't inrerrupt! My memory comes and goes! So, yeah, Perry was like changin' into a giant pink elephant talking Texan! Scared the bejesus outta me!
    L522: (sigh!) Then what happened?
    Odina: Well… i was told that I ran into a food store.
    L522: A food store.
    Odina: Yeah… That's what the witnesses said. I was so freaked out that I opened a aluminum foil, and wrapped a lot of it 'round my head!
    L522: Why did you do that?
    Odina: Because I wanted to stop Herman Cain's voices still telling me I'm pretty!
    L522: So did the foil help?
    Odina: HELL NO! I then started hearing Ron Paul's voices…
    L522: Now Ron Paul?! (Holy sh…)
    Odina: Can you believe it? I was told I fainted in pure horror! Those voices really scared the crap out of me even more! My niece had some stuffed toy elephants. I chucked them! I can't look at elephants, or foil, ever again!
    L522: Booze?
    Odina: Love some! Thank you!

    L522: There you have it, folks. A (ahem) Herman Cain uhh… victim that came forward. Believe it, or not.
    Odina: Hey! What about that drink?! I'll sue ya!

    End
    - Luis522
    ;-D

  192. ebarnes says:

    Sorry. I have to vent for a minute. I learned today that my district is expecting my Kindie kids to learn and master for a test next month skills that they are not developmentally ready to learn and master. They are expected to know and solve addition and subtraction to 10. Solve word problems that I read to them. Also, solve missing addents in equations like 4+ ___= 6. So, now I have to teach them algebra too. They are also being asked to segment words with digraphs which we don't teach and words with "e" endings whaich we also don't teach. I understand we want rigor in out kids education, but 5 year olds are not ready for this. I am very frustrated right now. Any thoughts?

  193. Luis522 says:

    When a person gets into the political arena, the gloves come off; and the people's scrutiny, and even suspicions, begin. As it should!
    The only thing, imo, that is sacred – off limits – is the family, race, and religion/faith (if they have any).
    Otherwise, let the mud slinging begin! I for one need to see how a politician/candidate reacts, or responds, under extremely hostile conditions from all sides, any situation, and even simultaneously.
    The world, domestically and globally, has become an extremely volatlie, vicious, and violent place. If a present and/or future rep or prez can't handle, or withstand, rhe constant attacks and scrutiny, fair or not fair (which is more the case), that exists in the 24/7 news cycle, and 21st century readily available and mobile hardware, then we need to know their strengths, and especially their weaknesses.

    A politician is a politician. They are neither perfect, nor saintly. They are neither above the law — nor above ANY and ALL of US!

  194. IdahoAnnie says:

    Sent out on the Emergency Broadcast in my county.
    http://rebuildingfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2

    • topshot says:

      Its a small step from testing a system to shutting down the communication grid. This time it is touted to only be a test, maybe next time it will be because if civil unrest whether real or made up. What would happen if the government decided to shut down not only its own satellites but commercial ones also. It wouldn't take much to shut down the cell towers as well. Seeing most communication systems rely on satellite relays taking them out along with the towers will close open communication for the civilian population. Conspiracy theory? Think before you answer and remember "THIS IS ONLY A TEST"

      Semper Fi

    • gladimamerican says:

      Here's a question, what the hell happens if there is really an emergency during this "up to 3 1/2 minute test"? The idiots in this administration won't know what to do. One thing you can count on with the left is there are ALWAYS unintended consequences.

  195. topshot says:

    Will Israel be forced to do the worlds dirty work again? You know its going to happen, the entire world and unfortunately America doesn't have the courage to help deal with Iran even though they are a threat to everyone. Israel will have to go it alone to stop a country bent on having nuclear weapons that has also called for the destruction of Israel and its people. Unfortunately Israel will be condemned by everyone even though in secret they have been waiting for Israel to act. I am quite sure the Obama Administration will be the first to call for sanctions at the UN and try to isolate Israel from the rest of the world. My heart is with the Jews and I pray that God will grant them safety as they do the worlds dirty work.

    Semper Fi

    • gladimamerican says:

      According to Debkafile http://www.debka.com/article/21451/, things may be heating up for Israel soon. It reports that Lebanese Hizballah leader hassan nassrallash is planning to hit Tel Aviv and other sites with 10,000 rockets. He claims they can do it with no help from Iran or Syria, although bashar assad of Syria has said that if his back is against the wall because of foreign intervention he will "burn the Middle East". He says "…he would need "not more than six hours to transfer hundreds of rockets and missiles to the Golan Heights to fire them at Tel Aviv." Top, I hope you are wrong about obama's reaction to any actions lsrael is forced to make, maybe the fact that the election is coming up will make him think twice about what he does, he doesn't want to lose the Jewish vote after all.

      • topshot says:

        The Jewish vote is always a possibility but so is the goal of all Muslims for the destruction of Israel AND America. Who do we know that sides with the Muslims?

        Semper Fi

  196. IdahoAnnie says:

    Ladies and gentlemen,
    Check out the Executive Orders that are pending right now. You might be surprised……………. or not…………..
    http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/eo/femalist.ht

    Interesting reading………. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executiv

    • topshot says:

      Scary stuff Annie, even more so when you think of who is now sitting in the oval office. Understandably an emergency system needs testing before it is called upon in a real emergency. Now when you stop and think of what other means of communication the government can control it really gets scary. Most forms of communications these days pass through a satellite relay, the government controls many of these and either have contractual agreements with the owners of the others or have a way to block or jam them if you will. Enjoy your GPS Navigation systems? Those belong to the government and can be shut down with a few clicks of a mouse. GPS not only helps when your driving your car but also when your flying, riding a train, taking that vacation on a cruise ship. Gone at the whim of the President. I know, there is also short wave and CB radio but those are very to jam also.

      The day will pass and nothing will happen because it isn't the right time to act. Civil Disorder on a large scale is one reason to take over communications and activate certain Executive Orders and what do we have going on now. OWS is violently demonstrating in cities across America and the liberals are encouraging them and some big unions are backing them so who knows how far the radical anarchists will take this. I don't want to alarm anyone because remember.

      THIS IS ONLY A TEST, THIS IS ONLY A TEST, THIS IS ONLY A TEST, THIS IS ON

      Semper Fi

  197. Luis522 says:

    Paul offers friendship with Iran; (just like obama)
    Says nuclear weapons program “blown out of proportion”

    ' The Texas congressman says fears about Iran’s nuclear program have been “blown out of proportion.” He says tough penalties are a mistake because, as he says was the case in Iraq, they only hurt the local population and still paved a path to war.

    When asked on “Fox News Sunday” what he would do to deter Iran’s alleged nuclear ambitions, Paul said “maybe offering friendship to them.” ' http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/national-s

    "[Sanctions] only hurt the local population". NOT strapping bombs on even women and children! NOT killing whomever even talks about converting to christianity, or killing people for voicing their protests, and even burying them in mass graves; or denying women EQUAL human rights to women.

    No! "Sanctions" hurt the . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOOMBE33-ro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLDjGdJC0Q

    . . .and Paul believes that Iran would accept our friendship!

    The words of a true coward, or sympathizer?

    Either way, Ron Paul is NOT a leader of the American People.

  198. topshot says:

    Mr. Obama's G20 open mic gaff.

    Sarkozy: 'I can't stand him… he’s a liar'
    Obama: 'You're fed up with him – I have to deal with him every day!'
    Open Mic reveals Mr. Obama's disrespect to Benjamin Netanyahu along with Sarkozy's statement of his dislike of the Israeli Prime Minister and that he is a liar. Words have consequences and Mr. Obama's words have brought to light his feelings about one of Americas closest Allies. These statements should serve as a warning to Israel that the Obama Administration is not only not a friend of Israel but also can not be counted on for support. It is a massive embarrassment to this country and one more reason to make Mr. Obama a one term President.

    Will this finally convince the Jewish vote in this country that the Democrats and specifically the Obama Administration is Anti-Jewish? One would certainly hope so, Israel's future is in peril and all the flowery talk Mr. Obama has used regarding Israel is show to be nothing more than a mere facade.

    The scramble has already started by Mr. Obama's handlers to lessen the impact of his G20 statements but the cat is out of the bag and there is no putting it back. It will be interesting as time goes on to see and hear all the spin put on by Reed and Pelosi and the Liberal Media, it should be quite a show.

    2012 can't come soon enough to rid this country of this embarrassment that currently sits in the oval office.

    Semper Fi

    • ebarnes says:

      I know the feeling. I can't wait until he is out of office. He is embarrasing to the country. I hope the Jewish vote is listening……..

  199. Luis522 says:

    OHIO: Issue Three Definitely For Me!

    The voters have slammed ObamneyCare to the ground in today's Elections.

    ' The constitutional amendment passed is largely symbolic, coming in response to the 2009 federal health care overhaul, a provision of which mandates that most Americans purchase health care.
    Supporters hope it will prompt a challenge of the overhaul before the U.S. Supreme Court.
    The tea party and Republican groups backing the amendment say the Affordable Care Act (ObamneyCare) was an overreach by the Obama administration and Congress.' http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/political/elections_

    Issue 3: Results
    Yes: 1,400,684 65
    No: 739,513 http://www.wtov9.com/elections/ohio_issues_levies
    OH is a huge swing-state. The same people that voted to keep collective bargaining (Issue 2) are the very same ones that voted DOWN ObaMitt Care over 2-1!

    This should send a message to the USSC.
    'NO TO OBAMNEYCARE!!!"'

    • topshot says:

      Luis,
      Issue 2 was defeated by a huge effort by the government funded unions with their pay and retirement packages. They spent millions of dollars and had thousands of union boots on the ground. Ohio reached to far by including the Police and Fire unions, people tend to support them more than other unions. If they had been left out the bill might have passed but they didn't. Now we will see if the promised layoff's occur. The state is out of money to pay for all of these benefits so we will see if they have the internal fortitude to do the right thing. Obama's policies are being routinely rejected by more and more people and there is a good chance the Republicans can pull off the hat trick by taking the Presidency, control of the Senate, and maintain control of the House. Even with control of all three it will take years to undue all the damage that has already been done and what is still in the works. Without a doubt this is a pivotal point in America's history and the most important election there has ever been. The future destiny of our country is at stake, four more years of Obama will surely spell the end of America as we now know it.

      Semper Fi

  200. Hobbes says:

    Today I heard Sharon Bialek label Herman Cain a "…pathological liar.." In the light of another recorded statement by Ms. Bialek, it is ironic that she should use that particular term.

    For the past two days, a long time Chicago radio personality has been a guest on a popular talk show. When the topic of Ms. Bialek's accusations came up on that show, he remarked, "I know that accuser, in fact I've been accused by that accuser." He explained that years ago he had been an on-air personality on a Chicago station where Ms. Bialek was employed in the advertising sales department. Ms. Bialek was spreading a rumor around the station that he had made advances to her and to her sister at a Chicago concert when she was only fourteen. To deal with the rumor, he asked her to explain what she was up to, and, consistent with his broadcast style, he put that question to her on his radio show. A tape of that show features her making the charge of inappropriate advances to a fourteen year old girl in the same manner that she has made her recent assertions about Herman Cain's alleged advances.

    There is a problem with these earlier accusations, however. The man in question is now 56 and Ms. Bialek is now 50 or 51. When she was 14, he would have been 19 or 20. He didn't even come to Chicago until he was 24.

    She might have a point, however. There might be a pathological liar involved here, but it appears to be Sharon Bialek and not Herman Cain. At least, there's more than a little support here for the notion that insatiable cravings for attention can last a long time and manifest themselves in very bizarre ways.

    • topshot says:

      Hobbes,
      It will be interesting to hear what all of these women have to say, 3 of these women may get together for a joint news conference. If they have any corroborating evidence it may not bode well for Mr. Cain and by the same token if there isn't any he may survive for a while longer. Time will tell on both possibilities but he has already suffered substantial damage with the multiple accusations that now add up to four.

      As far as the long time radio personality ( Steve Dahl ) goes, his checkered past doesn't inspire a lot of believability either. Time will tell if these accusations will have any lasting effects on Mr. Cains campaign.

      Semper Fi

      • Hobbes says:

        Topshot,
        Your speculations relative to Cain have as much worth as any other speculation. There's no useful way to respond to them. Your reference to Steve's "checkered past" seems to indicate either a misunderstanding of what I wrote or a lack of real familiarity with Steve. I wasn't relating a story which he told which might have been embellished, but a recording of the actual show when she stated her false accusation about him. If you know anything of Steve's past, you should be aware that his ego, his awareness of the potential for litigation, and his pride in his work are such that he has kept tapes of everything he ever did on the air. I'm sure that includes tapes of his recent appearances as a guest of Roe Conn.

        While you're focussing on "believability", you might want to probe a little into Sharon Bialek's history.

        Liberals have long depended on their belief that what is important is the charge itself. The validity of the charge doesn't matter to them. I hadn't thought they'd be right where you're concerned, but, as the saying goes, "We learn something every day whether we want to or not."

        • topshot says:

          Hobbes,
          I am well aware of Steve's past and his love of sensationalism, he is well know for his Disco Blow Up and other things he has done. Kind of a precursor shock jock to Howard Stern. If what he says is provable then one of two things are true, either she is lying or she is mistaken in time. Time will tell on both counts, personally I am sick to death of the treatment that a woman gets if she has the audacity to accuse someone of notoriety of some wrong doing. This is a common practice done by both sides and it assumes that unless a woman has a spotless past she is making any charges she may bring forth up as some kind money making plot.

          I clearly remember Paula Jones and other women trashed in the media as being "Loose Women" not worthy of being listened to. We all know how that ended up with all those women, their stories were portrayed as sounding prefabricated and their past was drug through the dirt. In the end even with Clinton's impassioned denials their allegations were proved to be true.

          All I want to know as an informed voter is if there is any truth behind the allegations that have been brought forth. If there is thing to them then let that be proven but if there is then that is also needed to be brought to light. I want Obama out of the White House and I don't want to find out in the last hour that the person we have running against him has in their past something tt will allow Obama to be re-elected.

          I am reserving my judgment until the facts are laid out, at that point I will make my final decision.

          Semper Fi

          • Hobbes says:

            Topshot,

            Let's set aside your condemnation of Steve Dahl on the basis of your assertion that he lacks a spotless background and address your assertion that you're sick to death that women who claim sexual harrassment are considered suspect unless they have spotless pasts. Lets also set aside the facts of the case of false accusations against the members of the Duke LaCrosse team etc. Instead let's focus on the tale told by a fifty-one year old woman about events she said occurred on a job hunting trip she instituted when she was thirty-seven.

            She is to be interviewed by a man and she tells that man in advance where she will be staying. Why do that? Job interviews are held in business offices. When she arrives at the hotel, she finds her reservation has been upgraded to a posh suite. She's not prepared to pay for such a suite. How does she expect it will be paid for? Why does she not tell the desk clerk that a mistake has been made and it must be corrected? The man she has arranged to see suggests they meet at her hotel for cocktails and she agrees. What does she think that might imply? At that meeting he tells her he has upgraded her room. How does she react to that? What does she suppose that means? He then invites her to dinner at a restaurant away from the hotel? If he was looking for a sexual encounter why would he not suggest checking out the fancy suite he presumably was paying for and order room service, champagne, etc, in the room. After dinner on the way back to the hotel he stops the car and makes a crude, clumsy two grab pass at her with the steering wheel in the way. Why was she still in the car after the first grab? Why wouldn't he wait and escort her to her room before making his move? Have you got the drift yet? Her story is flat out preposterous on its face. "What are you doing? You know I have a boy friend!" Can you believe any woman, let alone one who claims she'd been hit on by older men since she was fourteen, saying anything as ridiculous as that? Get serious, Topshot. This woman really deserves to be doubted.

            • topshot says:

              Hobbes,
              You raise many good questions that need answers, I have no idea why she said what she did at the time or why because I wasn't there. I am also not saying what she or any of the other women have claimed is true, what I am saying is that charges have been made and they need to be clarified and either proven or dis-proven. Her story as well as the other women's stories may indeed sound preposterous to some people as did the stories at the time of the Clinton women. Their condemnation at that time by the Liberals was proven wrong, these women may also be proven wrong and time will tell. My concern is that the real facts are brought to light whatever they may be. I am serious, as serious as a heart attack when it comes to nominating a candidate to run against Obama. I want out best candidate put forward to oust Obama. Herman Cain may prove to be that person or he may not be, that will be decided in the many primaries yet to come. There has been accusations made and I want a fair assessment of them is all. Isn't it better to have these charges proved or dis-proved now rather than if Mr. Cain was the was our nominee?

              We will have to agree to disagree on Steve Dahl just like a friend of mine and I disagree on some music. I like Classical and he likes Country but we just accept each others views and move on in friendship.

              The allegations against Herman Cain will either be proved or disproved and only time will tell either way. I just want it settled now and not be the distraction it has become.

              Semper Fi

              • Hobbes says:

                Topshot,

                In our judicial system a person is innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. Do you agree that the burden of proof lies with the accuser?

                My point is that if you are going to make such serious accusations against someone you'd better have solid proof and not just "she said, he said". And, not go public until you have that proof. Why would she hire an uncouth "celebrity" lawyer, a lawyer who, by the way, ignored requests from one of Clinton's accusers to represent her?

                You want it settled now, so do I and I'm sure many others do too. But, how do we settle it if we don't insist on proof of the accusations? If we had that we wouldn't have to look into her background.

              • Hobbes says:

                You also may find this column from Ann Coulter today interesting. It sums up the pattern of Illinois Democratic smear campaigns:
                http://www.anncoulter.com/

                Her last sentence tells it all.

  201. topshot says:

    Honoring America’s Military on Veterans Day

    Americas military and her use of them is unique in the history of the world. From the first small standing army with the help of its citizens militia led by George Washington to toady's men and women who serve around the world, when America called her military answered. From the Revolutionary War in 1775 to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2011 America has been in 15 major conflicts and 55 engagements including two world wars. To this date America has never held for her own any territory it has won in war. To the contrary America has spent Billions rebuilding those countries who declared war on us and caring for their people. Except for a few very rare occasions Americas military has proven itself to be honorable and full of compassion. While our men and women in uniform have suffered from long imprisonments, torture and even murder at the hands of enemies that lacked any kind of morality. Our military has treated their wounded and prisoners of war with humanity giving them medical aid and humane prison conditions and then repatriated these same enemy combatants when peace was reached. Americas military has freed more people than all other militaries from around the world combines.

    When disaster occur around the world either natural or man made the world calls for help from America and America calls on its military. Our brave men and women set to work using their great expertise and their equipment to save lives, render aid and help in rebuilding a devastated country and its people. People of the world know help and salvation has arrived when they see the Stars and Stripes. The calls for help will continue and Americas military will answer.

    As we observe and celebrate Veterans day let us not only remember the brave men and women who have served and are serving now but also those brave souls who have laid down their lives protecting the country they love and the people of the world. Remember also the Mothers and Fathers, Husbands and Wives, the Sisters and Brothers and the children of these Hero’s who answer their countries call. Remember them and their relatives in your prayer and ask for their safe return.

    Semper Fi

  202. Luis522 says:

    Happy Veterans Day

    To all that served their country with honor – I thank you. To their families – I share your admiration and respcct.

    Without our gatekeepers, there would be no LIBERTY. There would be no hope.
    God Bless America

  203. ebarnes says:

    I want to give all our veterans and current military a HUGE THANK YOU!!! Your service is never forgotten. I am honored to be the daughter of a Korean Veteran. He worked in Army Intelligence and was injured when a bomb set his tent on fire which landed on him. He still carries the visible and non visable scars of that time. We can't do enough for the sacrafices you have and will endure for this great nation.
    THANK YOU!!

    • Goober says:

      So sweet and true… I saw that you stopped in to the chatroom I think yesterday… sorry we missed you. heron and I were talking about it this morning and we think we ought to have a chat time either in the afternoons or maybe a bit later in the AM so those of you who live west can join in more. If we popped in around 10 am our time would 8 am be too late??? Or maybe an afternoon chat would work… let me know. Sure would enjoy talking to you and everyone else a bit more!

      • ebarnes says:

        My best time to catch you all is on the weekends. I go to work way too early to spend time in chat. But, I am usually on my puter around 7 or 8 mountain time on the weekends. I will be out next weekend, elk season ya know. LOL
        Hope to catch you soon.

  204. Luis522 says:

    TIME TO TAKE THE UNION/DEMOCRAT BOOT OFF OUR NECKS!

    National Right to Work Act.

    Sen Rand Paul has sponsored a MASSIVE one page bill (unheard of, huh!) that makes the ENTIRE NATION a Right-To-Work Nation!

    I just checked out website that has the petition to make Congress pass that bill.

    The petition reads:

    ' Whereas: Federal law permits Big Labor to confiscate $8 billion from American workers’ paychecks every year just to get or keep a job;

    Whereas: This forced unionism breeds violent strikes and a hate-the-boss mentality which drive good jobs overseas, jack up prices and risk re-igniting inflation:

    Whereas: Union bosses use this forced-dues fortune to corrupt our political system with over a billion dollars every election cycle; and

    Whereas: Union-puppet politicians routinely vote for higher taxes, bailouts, job-killing bureaucracy and even more porkbarrel spending keeping our nation locked in recession;
    Therefore: I urge you in the strongest possible terms to strike a blow for freedom and American prosperity by co-sponsoring and casting your every vote in favor the National Right to Work Act.'

    I just signed it! Go to the site:

    http://righttoworkcommittee.org/brp_c1.aspx?pid=S

    • Goober says:

      I like it. Good find Luis… I am signing and want to get this over on the Wolvie site too… Facebook, tweet.. whatever. I wonder if this will still be around long enough to put it in the December Growl for others to see and go sign it?? Can't hurt! We have got to rein these unions in. The private ones are bad, but the Public ones are totally out of control! All of them must go!

      • Luis522 says:

        "The private ones are bad . . ."

        The only unions I have a problem w/ are the public sector ones which cover all local, state, and federal jobs!

        What the shareholders do, in the pvt sector, w/ their $ is their biz — until they take the "B/S" (Bailout/Stimulus), and throws the burden in the face of the children — the future taxpayers!

    • Goober says:

      I tried to cut and paste the whole thing on the wolvie site, but because I use IE I had to shorten it up and just tell them to go sign it if they agreed… I also have already posted it on Facebook…

  205. PatriotEagle1 says:

    Here's a post DHR made on the growl in case you missed it. It's important, the fed was audited, go to the links…this needs to be spread, I don't think anyone knows about this! Feel free to copy and paste this to CQ or anywhere else…

    Here is the reason for all the World's financial problems

    MAN MADE GLOBAL PILLAGING and it affects everyone of us

    Ben Bernanke , Alan Greenspan, and various other bankers vehemently opposed the audit and lied to Congress about the effects an audit would have on markets. Nevertheless, the results of the first audit in the Federal Reserve’s nearly 100 year history were posted on Senator Sander’s webpage earlier this morning: July 2011 http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4

    Here's another article on this and it includes some breakdowns of where the money went http://www.unelected.org/audit-of-the-federal-res

    This happened only 4 months ago – Has any MEDIA covered it ?

    DON'T LET THIS ISSUE DIE, it is the HEAD of the SNAKE

    Blast this on, or spread it however you can!

  206. Luis522 says:

    Reminder:
    Tomorrow (Nov. 17th) at 2:00pm ET, over two hundred FreedomWorks activists from across the country will converge on Capitol Hill to present the findings of our Tea Party Debt Commission before a joint hearing of Senators and Congressmen.

    And you can tune-in live from work or home!

    C-SPAN will be streaming live from our Tea Party Debt Commission hearing on Capitol Hill. Don't miss a chance to be a part of this huge event!

    Watch the CSPAN online livestream @ 2:00p ET: http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN3

  207. OldMarine says:

    Here's something to ponder and discuss. Yesterday, the House passed "A state permit to carry a concealed firearm would be valid in almost every state in the country under legislation the House passed Wednesday." Further in the piece is "Thirty-five states have "shall issue" permit laws that usually require states to issue permits to those who meet legal requirements. Ten others have "may issue" or discretionary permit laws. Vermont, Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon."
    Now, I feel that the law passed by the critters is Unconstitutional because it violates the 10th amendment, States Rights to pass laws that govern who way own and carry a weapon? After all, some if not most states do not allow those under a certain age to own guns or even buy them. Some states do not allow convicted felons to own or carry weapons. If the critters can pass a law telling states that they have to "accept" CCDL from other states, can they just as easily tell states that 10 year olds can buy a gun? Are the critters over reaching?

    Everyone should I AM a strong gun advocate, I say everyone who can should have one, and carry it. However, where does Federal rights end and States rights begin.
    Semper Fi
    OM

    • topshot says:

      OM,
      As usual the Devil will be in the Details and those details have yet to be made clear. You know they can never make any Bill simple and short. What you say has very good merit considering the items you mentioned. One other would also bring the Bill into question and that is Illinois. I live in Illinois (until I can sell my house and move out of this despicable state) and Illinois is the only state left that doesn't allow either Open Carry or Concealed Carry. Now if you were to be stopped by one of Illinois finest and you either have your weapon sitting on the seat in the open or concealed on your person or even covered with a towel on the seat which also constitutes being concealed, what will the troopers actions be. To carry a weapon in a vehicle in Illinois you must separate the weapon and the ammunition by locking one or the other up in either the glove compartment, trunk or locked gun case. Now would you be subject to arrest with the possible confiscation and loss of your weapon? Like you say there are many questions not answered. What will be the unintended consequences be? Another good question to ponder. Great post to stir the thought processes.

      Semper Fi

    • gladimamerican says:

      Definitely a sticky situation. It seems that since it's covered by the second ammendment (which was obviously important to the founding fathers as they made it # 2 of 10), it shouldn't infringe on states rights. The sticky part is, if the states don't challenge this, they are abrogating any further rights to govern gun laws. If the federal goverment has total control, no questions asked, what will stop anti gun legislators from banning guns completely ? If they have control of all three branches of the goverment like they did from 2008-2010, what will stop them? No answers, but more to think about. With the left, we should always look at it as a worst case scenario.

    • ebarnes says:

      OM,
      Just got back today from elk hunting. Then, I saw your comment here. Found a couple of bulls, but no cows that were close enough to get a shot at them.
      Anyway, while we are pondering…….how about the very idea of conceal carry permits is unconstatutional?? It never said in the constitution that we all have to take a course to conceal carry. It just states the right to bear arms. It doesn't say concealed or open carry arms. Just a thought……

  208. Luis522 says:

    Occu Pie-Faces!

    ' At one point, a contingent of protesters decided to storm City Hall – but unknowingly ran to the Department of Education building on Chambers Street, where they chanted, "Bloomberg must go! Bloomberg must go!"

    Finally, one of the demonstrators realised the mistake and told the others: "This isn't City Hall?"

    They then ran to 1 Centre Street, where one said: "There it is! That's City Hall!" ' http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-new

    Not a brain among them! Their stupidity alone is dangerous!

    One acronym comes mind: GPS!

    That's right out of a riot scene in the original movie, "Police Academy"!

  209. Luis522 says:

    A Moment In Silence

    A toasted occupier comes up to the mic and says, "I thonk we should have a moment in silence, in solidarity for the white house and for the guy who shot at the white house today" *

    A moment "IN" silence?! Who freakin DIED?! The "guy" accused your "brother-in-solidarity", Barack Obama, of being the freakin "ANTICHRIST", you cheap-weed smokin imbecile!

    A moment in silence . . .

    Yeah… Have a moment… Take five . . . . .DECADES — that is!

    (jeez!)

    * http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/11/17

  210. patriot077 says:

    Wanted to share this article which includes a 10 min clip celebrating these heroes.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/the_l

  211. Luis522 says:

    The Illusion Of A Defined Term
    Some say, and even argue, that the USofA is a democracy. But, how many times is the term "democracy" used in the Dec of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, combined?

    Zero. Why did the Founders stay away from that particular term? And, what term is used in its place? "Republic".

    "… ,and to the Republic for which it stands …"

    A dictionary's definition

    In the political arena, terms are distorted. It's an unwritten rule. "Spending" has been transformed to mean "investment"; "Cutting" (as in "Spending") now maens "Slowing Down"; "Fairness" "Fair Share" became the replacement terms for "Redistribution" and "Socialism"; and "socialism" had been tactfully replaced with liberalism — which falls under the umbrella of "democratic".

    "Democracy", as far as the pohlitical arena is cooncerned , is a very illusory term as well. The dictionary's term is much different than how it's been applied.

    All hardcore communist (dictatorship) nations (China, NKorea, Cuba etc), as well as theocratic (Islamic) nations, all claim to be under a "democracy", or a democratic system. Euro-socialism also makes that claim.

    Our Founders understood, from direct experience, the nature of a "democracy" as they were ruled under a monarchy; a dictatorship. They KNEW about the oppressiom and tyranny of a so called "democracy".

    They would have nothing of the kind! There'd be no centralization, nor absoluteness, of power; hence, the 3 Branches and then the term limits for the CIC.

    It would be a representative-government; hence the two Houses of the Congress.

    The only constant would be the law; the U.S. Constitution. They left room for the growth that was certain to come. Amendments could and should be added — but, imo, ONLY SO LONG THAT IT DIDN'T DEVIATE FROM the "constant"; our Constitution.

    Would our economic growth have been slower if we'd've remainee within the restraints of our "Laws"? Perhaps. But, so what! What would've been the hurry?!

    Where has that race led us to? THE CLIFF!

    Here is my last example of an illusion of a defined term:

    "Prosperity" means "hurry up over the cliff!".

    So, in conclusion , are we a "democracy"? Absolutely not!
    We were founded as a Republic.

  212. ebarnes says:

    OM,
    I think the word ":infringed" is the key word here. Many gun owners feel they are infringed from bearing arms if they are told when, where and how they can carry them. Also, if they are told which guns are appropriate for them to buy. Just more food for thought.

    • OldMarine says:

      EB,Yes, but remember the Constitution defines what the Federal government can and can not do, therefore the Federal government can not “infringe” on bearing (carrying) arms, yet leaves it open on how they should be carried, concealed or open. Now, unlike some who claim to know what the Founding Fathers, may or may not have meant, from what I've read, I feel that when the Founding Fathers framed the Constitution, they didn't know (how could they) know what advances would come, so they put in place methods to cover these, ie. the amendment process and the 10th amendment ( I know this is not new, everyone should know this) and as guns got smaller, the Feds couldn't stop people from carrying them concealed, because that would infringe on the right to bear arms, so it was left to the states. OM

  213. Luis522 says:

    We Are Under Their Liberal, And Scaly, Skin!
    LMAO!

    The liberal media has sweat beads on their foreheads! They are on the defensive now, big time!

    When have we ever heard of any journalist, or Debate moderator, preparing IN CASE a candidate, specifically Newt Gingrich, calls them out at their blatant bias against the GOP?!

    If the crooked, union/OWS applauding, anti-American, pro-socialist, liberal-media/press had vetted Barack Insane Obama just a fraction of how they smear EVERYONE on the right, including pvt citizens ( e.g. Joe the plumber), and the TPM, perhaps the majority of the voters would've thought twice before handing the keys of 1600 to the Obamas.

    The media is rabid about how much better the candidates are doing — in spite of their unethical and bias, yet routine, coverage of ANYTHING that has to do w/ the GOP, the TPM, and even angry constituents questioning democrat reps at townhall meetings.

    We the People will no longer be HERDED by either the left OR right!

    I know that many here are adamantly against Newt Gingrich, BUT — he has led the charge aainst. this very politically, and ideologically, corrupt and complicit liberal-media/press.

    LETS ALL GIVE THEM ALL A BIG TP F-YOU!
    8-D

    Blitzer Prepares For ‘Heckler’ Gingrich http://dailyrushbo.com/limbaugh-blitzer-prepares-

  214. Luis522 says:

    Nov 22, 2011: CNN/HF/AEI Debate

    Imo,
    Gingrich:
    As usual, he had the most articulate; and used the least words in his explanations.
    His weakest point: Immigration.

    Bachmann: Very knowledgeable on Foreign Affairs — specifically Pakistan, and the ME. Her posiiion in the Intelligence Committee is a bg plus for the post as CIC.
    She also didn't try to placate anybody w/ her response on the question of continuing aid to Pakistan. Imo, she gave an honest answer. "Pakistan is too nuclear to fail!", she said. That did strike a chord in me. Pakistan has approx 100 nukes. To just say that she'd flat cut aid would be simply playing popular-politics. She gave a real assessment.

    Romney:
    A practiced speaker. Unlike Newt, he's long winded.

    Perry:
    The TX Gov gave a good debate. I didn't agree w/ his assessment of trying to get Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India on the road to stability by promoting, and perhaps assisting in, such a course thru trade. I don't see it. Pakistan and India, both nuclear nations, are sworn enemies. It'll never happen.

    Perry's assessment on Syria being Iran's flunky, sort of speak, is right on target. Any action, be it by military or by sanctions, is going to have to include Syria. They are definitely jotned at the hip.

    Cain:
    Though he held up w/ his talking points, and has improved, Foreign Policy is not his string point. BUT, he, as well as ALL of the other candidates, ate STILL MORE QUALIFIED than Obama ever was going in on Jan 20,2009!

    Huntsman:
    Most notable night yet. Because of his qualifications as US Ambassador to China, his assessment of sanctions being a ineffective waste of time was dead on.

    Santorum:
    Very passionate and patriotic. He recognized that we weren't exactly in a "war on terror", but, more precisely, a "war on extremist Islam".

    Ron Paul:
    "We should mind our own business". RP is RP, after all.

    The funniest moment, to me, was when Herman Cain innocently addressed Wolf Blitzer as "Blitz". He caught himself… Everybody waited until he finished his response before they cracked up! lol

    My thanks to "Blitz" and CNN for a very fair and relaxed debate. Any Debate where Newt doesn't have to whack any liberal knuckles tells me that it was a good night!
    I hope C-"BS" was watching. (I know… Waste of time.)

    Once again, BOzo LOSES!

    2012 — Here we come! :-D

    • gladimamerican says:

      Hobbes, I don't think the left will ever see the difference. I was listening to something on Fox and they were talking about how the cost of occu-sty wall street to communities nationwide is around $13,000,000.00 and alan colmes pipes in with the Tea Party rallies cost $6,000.00 in one place and a couple of thousand in another, etc., seriously comparing $13,000,000.00 to less than $20,000.00 (high guess), not comprehending the difference. Face it, the left is lousy with hypocrites, so blinded by their ideology they don't see reality. Michael moore, susan sarandon, jane hathaway, russell simmons to name a few . My personal favorite is matt damon, saying it isn't right that CEO's get such big paychecks and the working man doesn't. Somehow I have a feeling that little matt may have a problem if the studios told him no more 10's of millions of dollars for a film, henceforth he would make the same as a walk on actor. Yeah, I can him accepting that from now on he'd really be part of the 99%, not in the top 1/10th percent.

      • Hobbes says:

        Glad, it would be laughable if it weren't so serious to our economy in these bankrupt times. Hypocrites is right, although, the word doesn't seem strong enough when describing how these people think and rationalize… but then, that's assuming they really do THINK!!

  215. Luis522 says:

    Almost every candidate, right now, is much more qualified than BOzo! But, there seems to be so much illusion, and delusion coming from all sides. There are NO virginy clean, nor perfect, candidates out there. THERE NEVER WERE! There never will be!

    This is what's important to me:

    1. Obama's gotta go!

    2. We need to gain control of the Senate, AND keep the House.

    3. We MUST balance the budget; and at the very least, extend the Bush Tax Cuts indefinitely – until the tax system has been re-structured – and Dodd/Frank has been repealed

    4. We must repeal ObamneyCare. I WILL NOT simply settle for the sucker's Exec Order on this, or Dodd/Frank.

    5. We must suspend ALL the regs put into play, by BOzo's tzars, since he took office. We ms do the same w/ the Moratrium as well.

    6. Budget bills, emergency bills, and military approriations bills MUST be "clean". No pork/earmarks, or save-the-freakin-guppies, etc

    7. No more "green" subsidies, like Ethanol, or TAXPAYER "invesments" in pvt enterprises, bailouts, or ANY pvt universities.

    a. The same goes for Fann/Fredd, ACORN, NPR, NAA.

    8. Complete restructuring of the EPA/USDA/FDA, FCC, and NLRB.

    a. Dismantle the TSA; and privitize it, or use the Israeli model.

    b. Dismantle the Dept of Energy

    9. Move DHS to the FBI (domestic), NSA (international).

    10. Freeze, and then cut, the salaries for Congress (33%) in 3yrs, and allowances (50%) in 2yrs.

    11. Suspend any future monies to the UN unless:

    a. They agree to heavier sanctions on Iran.

    b. We have a stronger voting power.

    c. All policics that had come into effect since 2009, go under review, and are available to the public

    12. Audit the Fed.

    a. No further monetizing of Debt, or "bailing/stimulus" of the IMF w/ out public scrutiny AND a 2/3's Congresstional vote.

    These are the top priorities — off the top of my head. Feel free to add to it.

  216. IdahoAnnie says:

    I just did an independent test on CFL lightbulbs vs. incandescent bulbs. I put two lightbulbs in my roomies bedroom over head light. Knowing that they would get used at the same time, I thought it would be a fair comparison. I took a 60 watt bulb and a CFL that equaled the 60 watt and plugged them in two years ago. Well one burnt out about 6 months ago. Today I went in and replaced the burnt out one. After unscrewing the light shade, I was stunned……………. the light that burnt out was, you guessed it, the CFL bulb. The incandescent is still burning brightly. I replaced it with another "regular" light bulb. I was very careful with the CFL bulb knowing that if I dropped it I would need to call in the hazmat people for clean up. So I took it out and happily disposed of it. Yep, CFL saves money alright, for the manufacturers and the stock holders. Not for the consumers! Incan users forever!

  217. gladimamerican says:

    Bye, Bye Bawney! Bawney Fwank will announce at a 1:00 p.m. press conference today that he won't seek another term in the House of Representatives. WOO HOO!

  218. Luis522 says:

    Ronald Reagan: How Did He Do It?

    Hey guys!

    I had predicted in the TPP forum that, like it or not, the "final two" will be Newt and Mitt.
    They both have baggage; a sh*tload, for sure! But, they ALL have it in some shape or form.

    Ronald Reagan was the people's… No… He was the NATION'S leader FIRST. Because of that, he was a respected WORLD leader as well! He DEFENDED and PROTECTED us. I knew I was safe in his hands, w/ his TEAM. (Remember the word "team".)

    But, he was simply a human being. No one put him on that delusional, and very dangerous, god-like pedestal. No girlies fainted around him — faked or otherwise. No one lashed if or when you didn't agree w/ him. And there were a few, of course. Did RR make mistakes? Of course he did! He wasn't "perfect"; nor was he sold that way.

    What RR was a master at was reaching across the aisle. His team didn't "kick doors down"; or SLAM them on the faces of the People! He reached ACROSS… He listened and he worked w/ everyone – left/right, white/black, rich and poor.

    Reagan's intentions were truly TRANSPARENT. His concerns and priorities were the SAFETY and GENERAL WELFARE of the people . . . ALL of the AMERICAN PEOPLE!

    Whoever remembers the famous Reagan/Mondale debate will most likely agree that the very "air" in the room was electric! There was an excitement about it. It was a great show of two men sparring for the same belt . . .

    Reagan: "I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience" (*1)

    Reagan's age was being waved by the only media there was at the time; the "alphabet media": CBS, ABC, and NBC.

    Reagan masterfully spun a negative into a positive — w/ out having to humiliate his opponent, Walter Mondale, inn the process. He laughed – Mondale did.. Everyone did! But it was Mondale's expression that said it all… It said, "You win!".

    Yes, RR had his share of mistakes. The most relevant one being Immigration and Amnesty.

    What we need to consider is RR's intent and accomplishments. To get thngs done he had to work WITH his adversaries on "The Hill". There's NO disputing that! He couldn't do it ALONE! Nobody can!

    Now, ask yourself:
    1. Did DC function during his two terms?
    2. Did the economy come out of the ditch – that he also "INHERITED"? ( Which was worse in ;81 than it was in ;09)
    3. Was the Republic feared, respected, and even LIKED around the world?
    4. Did the Nation have the MANUFACTURED racial/social divisions we have today?

    5. Wasn't "Christmas" simply Christmas; and "The 4th" a day of true celebration and festivity enjoyed by all? Did we not truly HONOR those that sacrificed their very lives on Memorial Day?!

    But, Ronald Reagan passed away. His work, which was inherited by another, whom road his coat tails, slowly began to erode it away.

    There's a wall as big as the Great Wall of China dividing the parties, and more importantly, the American populaation — like it never was before.

    Whoever believes that "one" person has, or is, the answer is a danger to the future of our Republic!

    Can we turn back from the abyss? We have just one more chance! But we NEED someone who'll surround him/herself w/ a TEAM of advisers and consultants, what have you, that will expedite everything rational that's been brought to the table. (Paul Ryan's plans come to mind)
    If by chance the Ds keep just enough to affect votes, then we're going to have to CROSS THE AISLE and WORK TOGETHER! Period!

    But, until then, we STILL have unfinished business with Congress today! They're going to HAVE TO "kick the can" down the road until at least 2012-13. There's no way around this, people! We DON'T have the power or the backing of the media. Lets get real! We're NOT going to like it, but we HAVE TO GET TO 2013!

    Make w/ this what you will, people.

    God Bless America

    *1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoPu1UIBkBc

  219. Luis522 says:

    You guys just have to hear this!
    There's NO "pc" here!

    Audio: Adam Carolla Unloads on 'Occupy' Entitlement Mentality http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/12/01

    It's like he recited my thoughts on the Occu-pie faces!

    WARNING: Not edited. If you don't like "salt", don't listen!

  220. Luis522 says:

    Regime Manipulates Numbers to Get Unemployment Headline Under 9%
    1-3
    December 02, 2011

    RUSH: I don't want to be an I told you so, but I told you so, and I told you so five weeks ago. Gallup, every week, puts out their own unemployment numbers and Gallup has been signaling that this day unemployment below 9% was coming. They've been blatantly saying so, based on their own unemployment data, which is not related to the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. It's their own surveys; and in the last five weeks, occasionally they will say that their numbers that they come out with on a Wednesday or Thursday indicate that we're getting very close to a Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment number of under 9%. I said, "The regime needs this, and when we finally get to under 9%, it will be eight-point-something, but the point-what won't matter. The only number that's going to matter is the eight.

    "It could be 8.9; it won't be 8.9, it will be '8.'" Well, it's 8.6, but it doesn't matter, it's eight; and predictably, the media's all over it, and that's the headline. You know, I got up this morning and I did the show prep routine and one of the first places I always go is Drudge and I saw it right there in red, and it's 8.6, and that's all it said, and I knew what it was. It's Friday, and I didn't need to know anything else. I knew that was the unemployment number, 8.6, and that's all anybody else is gonna hear. They're not gonna dig deep and find out how it happened. Some people have, some people are. There's a slight bit of reservation in certain sectors of the Drive-By Media. But most of the Drive-By Media is doing hosannas and hallelujah and merry…

    Well, Happy Holidays. They don't do Merry Christmas in the media. But we're back, it's done, they got the headline: "Unemployment, 8.6%!" Now, the truth of the matter is — and Bloomberg News even points out that the only way — it's a corrupt number. It is a corrupt number. Folks, the number of people who have quit looking for work in the last few weeks is 315,000. Those are the people have thrown up their hands after 99 weeks or more of being unemployed; and they've said, "I'm quitting. I'm not looking." So they're not counted. Therefore, the universe of jobs available in the country is down by 315,000. That is the labor force participation rate. The labor force participation rate is a meager 64%. It fell to 64% from 64.2%. So the 0.2% drop equals 315,000 people leaving the workforce.

    That means there are 315,000 fewer jobs to have, so the universe of jobs has been steadily shrinking. What was the number of jobs created? It's 120,000 jobs. It's 120, 126,000, whatever. That's in the ballpark. That number of jobs created can lower unemployment rate 0.4%, almost one half of a percent? Creating 120,000 new jobs can do that? That alone tells us how small the labor force participation rate is. That tells us how small the universe of available jobs in the country is, when creating 120,000 — and we still have, don't forget, over 400,000 applications for unemployment compensation reported yesterday. So just 120,000 new jobs can lower the unemployment rate almost a half a point. That's not possible without that 315,000 figure, the 315,000 people who have just walked away.

    Bloomberg News is even reporting this means that more people left the workforce than got jobs. Now, stop and think of this. More people left the workforce than got jobs, and the unemployment rate goes down? We're dealing here with a serious form of corruption, manipulation of data; but, we all knew it was coming. After all, we're talking about the regime. We knew this was coming. We know the fact, we know the histoire, that no president's been reelected with an unemployment rate higher than 8%. So here we are 11 months away from the next election, voila! Heading into the Christmas, slash, holiday season, and we're at 8.6%, the 0.6 doesn't matter, we're at 8%. And the media is having orgasms out there, O-gasms.

    cnt'd

    • Luis522 says:

      2-3
      But everybody in the country knows the economy is not growing, that new jobs are not being created a massive, robust way that signals, or feels like economic growth. But the sad thing is that all these details that I have provided — probably, sadly — won't even matter because the regime has gotten the headline that it wanted. It got 8.6. The regime got unemployment 8.6%. That's what they wanted; that's what they got. All these other details are irrelevant. Now, this is the U3 unemployment rate. The U6 unemployment rate counts the 315,000. The U3 is a government marker. U3 is what is reported. The U6 unemployment number counts the 315,000 who have given up looking for a gig. The U6 unemployment number is around 16, 17% — and that's real unemployment.

      The job universe from January 2009 when Obama was immaculated to the present is down about 2.5 million jobs. There are 2.5 million fewer jobs in our country in the two and a half, almost three years now that Obama has been in orifice — and that's the dirty little secret. You shrink the workforce by two, 2.5 million people is the only way you can report the unemployment rate going down. More people leave the workforce than found jobs, and the unemployment rate went down a half a point. So again we are being massaged, we are being spun, we are being inundated with corrupt numbers, but it was all predictable, all understandable. Again, so small has the employment universe become — so small, so many people having dropped out of the system altogether…

      No longer counted, is what that means, as being unemployed. No longer counted as being alive in terms of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. When you quit looking for a job, you're only counted in that U6 number, which is not the one that's reported. The U3 number is. So you drop out of the system altogether, you're no longer counted by the Obama regime. A mere 126,000 job increase drops unemployment rate almost one half of a percentage point. This is nothing more than the government manipulating the real work situation that exists in the country. It's all calculated to create a false impression of economic recovery and a healthier job market. It's truly outrageous — and watch how the Obama media cronies regurgitate this propaganda for the most part. Watch how they'll all fall in line. You've probably heard it already this morning. I have examples of it here in the sound bite roster, but I don't… Ah, I'll probably play a couple of them just for the fun of it.

      BREAK TRANSCRIPT

      RUSH: Let me give you another way of illustrating what the regime did to get to this unemployment number, and it is very similar to how baseline budgeting works. Another way of looking at this is this. You had 120,000 jobs that were created. You have 315,000 people who dropped out. What you do is add those together and you get a number 435,000, and that 435,000 the government today says are no longer unemployed. So 435,000 jobs created… No. No, no. Let's not go that far. So, 435,000 people no longer unemployed results in an unemployment rate dropping from 9.0 to 8.6. See how that works? This is what they do. This is what they did.

      This is how it happens: 120,000 people find work, 315,000 quit looking; those 315,000 are no longer called unemployed. That's the U3 clarification, qualification. U3 is made up of people looking for work and people who have lost their jobs and so forth. The 315,000 stop looking. They are added to those who are unemployed, and you get a grand total of 435,000. That's how it happens. It's almost a dead returning for the fraud and the misleading way that budgeting is done, baseline budgeting, such as there are never any cuts. Even with the super committee, there aren't gonna be any cuts in spending. There are just going to be reductions in what was projected to be spent.

      cnt'd

      • Luis522 says:

        3-3
        They're still gonna spend more, just not as much as was projected in the current services baseline. That's what it's actually called: Current services, meaning what is at present being spent is the baseline. Not zero, but what's presently being spent or at present. And then if you add 10% to what is being spent as a projection, it's what we're gonna spend next year and you only spend 7% of it, "Oh, no, that's a 3% cut in that department! That's a Draconian cut of 3%. We were gonna spend 10%, and you're only gonna spend 7%!" It's a 3% cut. That's how baseline budgeting works. It's the same thing here with the unemployment number.

        BREAK TRANSCRIPT

        RUSH: Here's Mary in Chicago as we go back to the phones. Great to have you with us. Hello.

        CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thank you for taking my call. It's an honor and a pleasure to talk to you.

        RUSH: Thank you.

        CALLER: I had a question for you regarding that 8.6% unemployment rate that was reported. I was wondering if you know whether there are other government programs that people are taking advantage of and switching over. There aren't too many people like your first caller who is obviously very honorable and doesn't want to accept disability payments. There's a lot of people who want to take advantage of the system and perhaps two years of unemployment is not enough, so they figure, "Hey, let me get on a better plan, maybe I can get on Social Security disability in addition to some food stamps and some other programs and take advantage of the government that way." Do you have any information on what the statistics are on those other plans?

        RUSH: Well, in relation of one program to the next, no. But I can tell you that the number of people on food stamps is at an all-time high, and we've gone up. Just in the years that Obama's been president we've increased it by 5%, I think it's from 20 to 25% or 40 to 42. It's 44.5 million people, and more than one program these people are availing themselves of — and by design. It's the Democrat Party buying votes via dependency.

        END TRANSCRIPT
        http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/12/02/regi

  221. ebarnes says:

    New song out by Dierks Bentley. Kind of a cool song.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJoZiB-UGY

    it is called "Home"

  222. olnavyboy says:

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Police-Anti-Oc
    Police: Anti-Occupy Seattle protester beaten near SCCC
    I cannot stress this enough: If you go to these occupy protests, go in groups, and have cameras with you.

  223. Luis522 says:

    BOzo In Kansas: Follow The RED SQUARE Road

    i no longer need to know what's in BOzo's college transcripts . . .

    He has used the term "corpse" SEVERA TIMES when descrbing our troops or outfit
    ( e.g. corps, corpsman).

    He's said that the United States consists of FIFTY SEVEN states.

    He's said that Hawaii is in ASIA.

    During his Memorial Day speech, BOzo said that he was "glad to SEE so many of the FALLEN here today "

    There ARE other monumenta gaffes, and OUTRIGHT LIES! Many! See for yourself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4

    When not on teleprompter, and when he tries to lie spontaneously, he STUDDERS!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y

    BOzo was sold as THE ANSWER TO OUR PRAYERS, a brilliant scholar, and even a god and messiah. His camaign package was wrapped around a centrist point of view – full of promises of stability, prosperity, equality, and unity as a people. It turns out that BARACK INSANE OBAMA is actually FULL OF "something else" entirely!

    Gaffes are something that I can put up with, and laugh at. Everyone has those moments. But, what we have here is someone who's trying to pass for as brilliant, but when h comes to American History, American Prosperity and Exceptionalism, or ANYTHING at all about the very foundation of our SOVEREIGN Republic called the UNITED States of America, well, this ALLEGED Columbia/Harvard grad is an intentionally malicious, and blithering idiot.

    His Kansas speech (no, BOzo, it wasn't Texas! ) completely affirms confirms what EVERYBODY that even has half a brain already knows . . .

    OVAMA IS A CROOKED-HARD CORE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION AND JUDEO-CHRISTIAN-HATING-WANNA-BE-CHICAGO GANGSTER-UNION AND GEORGE SOROS-COMMUNISTWH*RE!

    Luis522
    }:- /

    • Luis522 says:

      Obama Kansas Speech Transcript: Americanism Doesn’t Work – Has Never Worked
      December 7, 2011
      By Maggie*

      Barack Obama in his Kansas speech yesterday said the American Way doesn’t work and has never worked. The man whose Party solely allowed the mortgage/housing meltdown, the man who has hosted in his office, some of the vilest, anti-capitalist, anti-American lobbyists in the country, after promising to jerk the welcome mat, blamed Congress. As he spoke of his disdain at letting the free market work, he failed to mention that his policies and regulations have denied that freedom to the free market. There is so much to say about this speech, but I’ll leave it at Rush Limbaugh’s summary today:

      Go to: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/12/07/pres

      * http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2011/12/obama-kans

      d8-D

  224. olnavyboy says:

    http://www.mercuryone.org

    For those who listen to Glenn Beck, this is his new idea. So far, I like it.

  225. topshot says:

    THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!

    Report: 274 troops’ remains dumped in landfill

    The Associated Press
    Posted : Wednesday Dec 7, 2011 21:58:29 EST

    WASHINGTON — A published report says the remains of many more troops have been dumped in a Virginia landfill than the military originally acknowledged.

    The Washington Post says the incinerated partial remains of at least 274 American troops were sent to the King George County Landfill in Virginia. The report was based on database information at the Dover Air Base, Del., mortuary, where the remains of most war dead return.

    The families of the dead authorized the military to dispose of the remains respectfully and with dignity. They were unaware of the landfill dumping, and Air Force officials told The Post they have no plans now to alert the families.

    Military policy or regulations did not formally authorize the practice. The mortuary has handled the remains of more than 6,300 troops since 2001.

    Heads need to roll and roll right now, there is absolutely no excuse for this. You MUST contact your elected officials and tell them of your outrage about the handling of these veterans.

    Semper Fi

    • gladimamerican says:

      This makes my blood boil Topshot! There had to have been a better way to handle this, a specific place at Arlington National possibly. It has been reported that they changed this policy in June, 2008 by having the Navy bury any unidentified remains. But the fact that goverment representives, military personel and contractors could be so disrespectful is beyond comprehension. http://hamptonroads.com/2011/11/remains-war-dead-

  226. Luis522 says:

    Newt Offers The Politically Handicapped-Obama A Debate Handicap!

    ' Gingrich appeared to look completely past the primaries Wednesday as he challenged President Obama to seven three-hour Lincoln-Douglas style debates

    He sarcastically noted that Obama COULD USE A TELEPROMPTER (lmao!) for the debates, quipping “after all, if you had to defend Obamacare wouldn't you want a teleprompter? '

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-whit

    And people wonder why the media and the establishment are trying to weed and isolate Mitt for the nom?

  227. ebarnes says:

    This brought a tear to my eye:

    Toni Lopez Swanger
    'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE,
    IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE.

    I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,
    … AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.

    I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,
    NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE.

    NO STOCKING BY THE MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,
    ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.

    WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,
    A SOBER THOUGHT CAME THROUGH MY MIND.

    FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,
    I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.

    THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE,
    CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.

    THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,
    NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.

    WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?
    CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED?

  228. ebarnes says:

    I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,
    OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.

    SOON ROUND THE WORLD, THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,
    AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.

    THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,
    BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.

  229. Luis522 says:

    In Layman's Terms

    ' It's a slow day in the small town of Pumphandle and the streets are deserted. Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.

    A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.
    As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

    (Stay with this…..and pay attention)

    The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.

    The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op.

    The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.

    The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner.

    (Almost done…keep reading)

    The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything. At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.

    No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town now thinks that they are out of debt and there is a false atmosphere of optimism and glee.

    And that, my friends, is how a "stimulus package" works! '
    Author Unknown

    I thought it was pretty good! :-)

  230. Luis522 says:

    Well, there might not be a Newsmax Debate, but there's always THIS:

    Trump "Wigs" Out?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1L013k5Hw

    d:-D

  231. topshot says:

    Newt vs the Republican Old Guard
    Isn't it amusing how the Good Old Boys are quick to jump on Newt. I can understand Rand Paul because he is supporting Ron Paul his father and his little dedicated group of Paulites. What you are hearing is the mussings of the Good Old Boys Club that still hold a grudge because Newt was an effictive Speaker of the House who cracked the whip and made the members of the Boys Club tow the line. They forget all about the Contract with America, his working with President Clinton in 1966 to limit Welfare and pass a Capital Gains Tax cut in 1997 and in 1988 pass a balanced budget. In 1997 it is true he was diciplined after being convicted on only one of the 84 charges that were brought against him by the likes of Nancy Pelosi. If you throw enough crap against the wall sooner or later something will stick.

    • topshot says:

      Newt has made some mistakes and has made some changes but the Good Old Boys have a long memory. I would rather look to new members such as Marco Rubio and hear what his opinions are. Look for Newt to be pulled over the coals by his Republican Brothers and Sisters who may just be afraid of what a President Gingrich would force them to do this time. My thoughts immediately go the the words from a movie that said " Be afraid, be very afraid " because Newt just may spoil the fun the Good Old Boys have been having.
      Semper Fi

    • RageforOrder says:

      Really?
      Is Newt Gingrich a Conservative? You decide http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-newt-gingrich

  232. RageforOrder says:

    Newt Gingrich voting record
    10/22/1991 – Voted for an amendment that would create a National Police Corps.
    03/-/1993 – Voted for sending $1.6 Billion in foreign aid to Russia.
    11/19/1993 – Voted for the NAFTA Implementation Act.
    11/27/1994 – Supported the GATT Treaty giving sovereignty to the U.N.
    08/27/1995 – Suggested that drug smuggling should carry a death sentence.
    04/25/1996 – Voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion)
    04/10/1995 – Supported Federal tax-dollars being spent on abortions.

    • RageforOrder says:

      09/25/1996 – Introduced H.R. 4170, demanded life-sentence or execution for someone bringing 2 ounces of marijuana across the border.
      01/22/1997 – Congress gave him a record-setting $300,000 fine for ethical wrongdoing.
      11/29/2006 – Stated that free speech should be curtailed in order to fight terrorism. Called for a “serious debate about the 1st Amendment.”
      02/15/2007 – Supported Bush’s proposal for mandatory carbon caps.
      09/28/2008 – Stated if he were in office, he would have reluctantly voted for the $700B TARP bailout.
      10/01/2008 – Stated in an article that TARP was a “workout, not a bailout.”
      12/08/2008 – Paid $300,000 by Freddie Mac to halt Congress from bringing necessary reform.
      03/31/2009 – States we should have Singapore-style drug tests for Americans.
      07/30/2010 – States that Iraq was just step one in defeating the “Axis of Evil”.
      08/03/2010 – Advocates attacks on Iran & North Korea.

    • RageforOrder says:

      11/15/2010 – Defended Romney-care
      12/05/2010 – Stated that a website owner should be considered an enemy combatant, hunted down and executed, for publishing leaked government memos.
      01/30/2011 – Lobbied for ethanol subsidies.
      01/30/2011 – Suggested that flex-fuel vehicles be mandated for Americans.
      02/13/2011 – Criticized Obama for sending less U.S. tax dollars to Egypt.
      02/15/2011 – Wrote book saying he believes man-made climate-change and advocated creating “a new endowment for conservation and the environment.”
      03/09/2011 – Blames his infidelity to multiple wives on his passion for the country.
      03/15/2011 – Stated that NAFTA worked because it created jobs in Mexico.
      03/19/2011 – Shows no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability)
      03/23/2011 – Completely flip-flopped on Libyan intervention in 16 days.
      03/25/2011 – Plans to sign as many as 200 executive orders on his first day as president.

    • RageforOrder says:

      04/25/2011 – Became paid lobbyist for Federal ethanol subsidies.
      05/12/2011 – More supportive of individual health-care mandates than Mitt Romney.
      06/09/2011 – Campaign staff resigned en mass.
      07/15/2011 – Poorly managed campaign is over $1 Million in debt.
      08/01/2011 – Hired a company to create fake Twitter accounts to make fake followers.
      10/07/2011 – Stated he’d ignore the Supreme Court and bypass the constitution and congress.

    • RageforOrder says:

      One I left out
      04/02/1987 – He cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine

      • topshot says:

        With only two candidates having a real chance of getting the nomination would you prefer Romney?

        • olnavyboy says:

          Defeating Obama is only the tip of the iceberg. There are many bureaucrats that need to take a hike, many special interest groups, lobbyists, and above all, those who wish this country ill and have the money to forward a nefarious goal. We need someone who is honest, above all. Who would that be?

          • RageforOrder says:

            We all know who the most honest candidate is……..But since he puts America's interest first,he will not send our money and soldiers to die for Israel or any other country….he isn't getting the mainstream support.It is a shame,people are willing to put Israel before their own country,they are pretty dang close to traitors in my book.

        • RageforOrder says:

          There is still time……..Actually I do prefer Romney over Gingrich.I will not vote for either of them though.Voting for the lesser of two evils does not work.I will not give my consent to a tyrannical government,I will write someone in if I have to………If it means BO gets re-elected so be it.Obama's first term created the tea party……Who knows?Maybe his second term may actually create something that will take this country back.

      • IdahoAnnie says:

        it's not just who can beat Obama, it's WHO can bring our country back out of the death spiral faster. Who knows Washington better? Who can bring American back into a strong world position? Who doesn't look like a used car salesman?

        • topshot says:

          Sounds pretty simple to me, look at the polls and most conservatives feel the same way. Romney holds roughly 25% of the vote and that means 75% of those same conservatives don't really want him. The other contenders are only fooling themselves if they think they will get the nomination and the people are telling the Good Old Boys they don't control the game anymore. Looks at this time Newt will be the nominee and we will see what is more important, defeating Obama or getting even for old believed wrongs. It will be telling to see what is more important, America or their hurt feelings.

    • Azarlien says:

      And our choices are supposed to be Newt (from the Swamp :-) ) or Romney!? What is this? Do they want Obama to be in for another 4 years to collapse everything??

      • topshot says:

        Our choices are limited by who the nominees are and the field is set. My personal choice was Marco Rubio but he choose not to run as well as many other solid conservatives. It is to late for anyone else to enter the race so we have to choose from the current field. We have to choose from those now running who among them would be the best choice. As of this time there are only two viable candidates, Newt and Mitt. The others have become also rans and their chances for a last min. come back grow slimmer every day. The choice will come down to Newt or Mitt and one has to decide which of these two have values closest to our own. Do I agree with everything Newt has done in the past? No I don't but I think he would be better than Romney. My Dad used to tell me to spit in one hand and wish in the other and see which hand gets full first. Wishing for someone else besides these two is just that a wish. Reality is we will have a choice between these two unless something truly bizzare happens to change that. All we can do is after a nominee has been chosen is put our differences aside and do what it takes to defeat the greatest threat this country has ever had, OBAMA!!!

        • Azarlien says:

          Honestly, if it's either Mitt or Newt I don't really know if I'm going to bother voting. (I know, I know….) There is an upshot though, I'm in the People's Republic of California anyway so my vote for President won't mean a thing!

          • topshot says:

            Don't feel isolated A, I'm stck here in Illinois until next year when I hope to be set free. You have your Pelosi and I have my Durbin, sad, very sad indeed. Keep the faith, either one of them will be a huge improvement over what is squatting in the WH now. We need to sick together and push our Reps to do the right thing, whether they want to or not. The only thing that motivates most of them is the threat to have to join the real American workers in the unemployment line. The power truly is in the hands of the people if the people will take that power back from the professional politicians. The time is now to redouble our efforts and return America to the world leader that the world needs.

  233. Hobbes says:

    As though we don't have enough problems with the IRS, now an International one? The Robin Hood Tax … http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/12/

    • Azarlien says:

      Just found this place via Growl.

      Lovely, international IRS. Well I've got news for them: NO WAY! If it means I've got to ditch idiotic civilization for some island in the middle of nowhere, so be it. (Though the way things are going, it's probably going to be safer on the island in the middle of nowhere. Society seems to be falling apart all over the place.)

      • Hobbes says:

        That's great! Welcome!

        An island in the middle of nowhere is sounding pretty good these days, however, we are fast running out of nowhere! :-(

        • Azarlien says:

          That's the funny thing. I used to be of the opinion the US was so big you could sort of get lost. These days, with privacy about nonexistent, I'm about ready to chuck the whole dang thing and get out.

          Trouble is, out to where exactly? Aside from some island in Nowhere, I'm out of ideas. ;-)

    • PatriotEagle1 says:

      hobbes, this must be stopped. it would be a financial windfall for those who tax the transactions and they would have no oversight. this is really big.

      • Hobbes says:

        Just incredible stuff, huh? I wonder what other schemes they are cooking up to steal our money! It just never ends….

        And, the audacity of it all is when Obama preaches that WE are the greedy ones!

        • PatriotEagle1 says:

          Hobbes, an international 1% financial transaction tax is likely to pass this congress because the idiots will believe the propaganda that goes along with it. It is very well presented. It will definitely create jobs (off shore) and lne many pockets. Reid and Pelsoi will push it hard.

          • Hobbes says:

            PE, why doesn't it surprise me that Reid and Pelsoi would be pushing this hard! Yep, today a 1% tax (which is ridiculous), tomorrow it will be higher, then higher and higher. It will never end. Idiots is right! And, the problem is once these things are established they never go away. I'm beginning to believe there is NO ONE looking out for us or our country . Why don't they understand that's what their job is and why they were elected. Makes me wonder even if were able to throw them all out whether or not the "new" ones will understand why they were elected. Maybe when you get elected they put you in some kind of mind numbing machine which not only DC has but the states too.

            • PatriotEagle1 says:

              yep, that is what Dot days also. Once ythe newbies get to DC they are indoctrinated or threatened and they fall into line for the most part. I so want to fight this tax.

              • Hobbes says:

                Besides calling our inept representatives, who ignore us, what else might we be able to do to fight this? If you have any suggestions, I'm willing to give it a try … legal, of course! :-)

                • PatriotEagle1 says:

                  Hobbes, first I research the subject deeply, copying the Bill, reading it and writing my comments in the margins. I find success by phone contacting the rep or senator who proposes the Bills to get their reasoning. I then contact my own reps/senators via phone after I type a letter which I fax to all I called. I get their opinions. Then I find out which committee is handling the Bill and write a letter to all of the members stating my opinions and findings. Then I go onto the internet and post my findings and ask others to contact their reps. I have been very successful with two Bills I fought which were removed or voted down.

                • PatriotEagle1 says:

                  Hobbes, I have no idea if all the faxes, emails and letters have much impact. I still send letters often and email my reps. I get responses from them weekly. For this battle on the 1% issue, I plan to get the facts, write the letters and do a major newspaper article for a few papers as well as post things on the internet. I will also write a letter to about 50 people and ask that they write letters and make phone calls to the reps in DC. That is best I can think of. A full court press, so to speak. This worked well in defeating last years 1099 law. That was fantastic.

                  • Hobbes says:

                    Good ideas, PE, and it's encouraging to learn that being persistent does work sometimes. When I write letters, I get form ones back. I have phoned my reps and get office people who will "relay" the message and when I question them on what the official's opinion is on a Bill, I get a run around … "Mr/Ms So and So are still considering the issue." But, then I do live in Illinois. I've not tried contacting the rep or senator who proposes a Bill, that's a great idea. All good ideas. I'm sure others will read them too and maybe we can kill this 1% thing.

                    Thanks for sharing your expertise.

                    And, you are right, defeating the 1099 law was "fantastic"!

  234. Luis522 says:

    Pretty Please?! With Sugar On Top?!
    Concerning The Drone

    First BOzo said:

    "With respect to the drone inside of Iran. I'm not going to comment on…errr…ehh…intelligence matters that are classified…"

    I had started to think, "Phew! That's a relief!". But, of course, he continued…

    "…uhhm… As already been indicated…uhh…we've asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond!" *
    For a second there, I tuohght that BOzo was about to cry at the end!
    BOzo asked for it back! Well, one thing's for sure, BOzo did not talk about anything with ANY KIND of intelligence whatsoever!

    Somewhere in Iran, Ma'mao Ahmadinejad is watching the tube saying with a loathesome grin, "This semi-infidel is the weakest, and dumbest, president in the American history! He bores me! I can't wait until we nuke the daylights out of'em; and put them out of their
    misery! ", he'd continue, "Eh… If he's lucky enough to survive, maybe I'll put him to wash some camels. I'll make those other imbeciles they call liberals to watch, and clean up the camel sh*t!" .
    And then Ma'mao Ahmadinejad would laugh quietly — continuing to glare at the clown on the screen.

    * http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/12

  235. gladimamerican says:

    I know this is an extreme case, but please think about it. Are you prepared? A butter shortage in Norway has caused the price to skyrocket to $465.00/500 gr. (1 lb 1.63 oz) http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2011/12/12/norwa… . Olnavyboy has put together a page to help you with planning and preparation http://rebuildingfreedom.org/information/prepare-… Please take a few minutes to read it and think about what you can do to prepare.

  236. Luis522 says:

    Enough Is Enough!

    Gingrich Flashback: ‘Progressive’ FDR Was ‘Greatest President of the 20th Century’ (Plus – SEIU’s Andy Stern Is Visionary Union Leader!)

    (excerpt)*
    ' Is Gingrich a “progressive” in any real sense? Beck would argue yes. Many parts of me would scream no. I do know that Gingrich is likely capable to debate the next two points to great effect.

    But evaluate on your own.
    Watch Video http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gingrich-flashbac

    [W]hen presented with the passage, former Gingrich aide Rick Tyler stressed that his former boss "no longer agrees with those sentiments."

    (Gimmie a freakin break!)

    Source:
    * http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gingrich-flashbac

    I tried to give NG the benefit of the doubt. NG's knowledge of ME history is accurate, but… His is a double life. I no longer believe that NG is nothing less than a hardcore FDR-loving, Teddy Roosevelt aggressive-Progresisve in Conservative clothing.

    NG = Not Good for the future of the Anerican Republic — for which it stands!

  237. RageforOrder says:

    For you that Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy http://youtu.be/I8NhRPo0WAo

  238. OldMarine says:

    Rage,
    Would you or the author of the linkled article PLEASE show me in the mention bill where the suspension of Haberas Corpus or enacting of Martial Law is even suggested. In fact, there is language that says, that American citizens ARE NOT subject to it. AND it even says that there is protection under the Constitution.
    Please check these posts http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/11/27/secret-op… and http://rebuildingfreedom.org/2011/12/03/sometimes… then ask yourself, is there other agendas in motion from either the LEFT or the RIGHT
    Semper Fi

  239. RageforOrder says:

    Reading it through once more I think you are right about the American citizens being exempt…..what disturbed me was the percieved meaning of the bill from the comments on both sides of the issue by certain senators.
    As for your questions……I really don't know the answers

  240. RageforOrder says:

    Ok I am confused I just ran upon this article
    "Don't Be Fooled": The Indefinite Detention Bill DOES Apply to American Citizens on U.S. Soil http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/dont-be-fool

  241. RageforOrder says:

    Actually reading it again,I am swinging back to my original thought
    Excerpt "UNITED STATES CITIZENS. The requirement to detain a person in military custody under THIS section (1032) does not extend to citizens of the United States."

    It doesn't say that American citizens are exempt from 1031 so American citizens that are suspected of "a belligerent act" CAN be held w/o trial

    • OldMarine says:

      Rage,I know what you mean. Why are they concentrating on 1031, when 1032 spells it out. Even Glenn Beck was ranting about 1031, but didn't mention 1032. Is there an agenda? From the left, yes, to get the terrorist here on U.S. soil for trial. From the right, I have my own weird ideas and if I were to express them, “the men in the white coats would come to take me, to the funny farm, where gay and beautiful…” Let's just say, that too many people are being lead AND not looking at the facts.Semper Fi

      • RageforOrder says:

        We are NOT exempt from 1031…….but we are exempt from 1032……That is why Glenn was ranting about 1031.True conservatives voted against this bill. Rep.Justin Amash (Mich) said that this bill was may have been intentionally written to look like it exempted American citizens from indefinate detention w/o trial…..but it does otherwise.As for agendas……many on both the left and the right both love big govt……..and this bill increases their stranglehold.

  242. IdahoAnnie says:

    you got a thumbs up from me just for getting everyone's blood boiling…………..

  243. RageforOrder says:

    "Don't Be Fooled": The Indefinite Detention Bill DOES Apply to American Citizens on U.S. Soil http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/dont-be-fool

  244. Luis522 says:

    Clash Of The Frightened

    Newt and Mitt have taken out their jets and are piling up truckloads of kaka in front of them; and we're seeing it FLY!

    Would I call these "zany" antics entertaining? Not at all! Why would I?! The CRAP that they're
    jettisoning is hitting the American people in the way of embarassment, and the complete abandonment of standing FOR something.

    These moderate-morons are giving the 3-ring-circus that is the liberal/RINO media just the props it needs to provide "The Greatest DISTRACTION On Earth"!

    The D-bags are enjoying every minute of it! As well they should! The 2 "moderate morons" have been swinging the political/ideological-pendulum, from Progressive – to liberal – to conservative for ALL THEY'RE WORTH!

    So, what are these mod-morons doing? Well, they are spending half of their campaign time and $ either BLOWING CRAP at each other, or spinning and walking-back RECORDED positions they have had in the distant, or recent, past. It's like watching a home video of a monkey trying to bang the other monkey ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khEPc_0MpgY ).

    But, we're the ones being laughed at! We the People are the ones getting SCREWED!

    I see the "rejected 3" coming up!

    • Azarlien says:

      The only thing they're succeeding at from my perspective is that it's pointless to even vote. If these two clowns are all we've got, it's time to pack it up.

      • Luis522 says:

        hmmm…
        not voting only helps BOzo.

        • Azarlien says:

          Technically it doesn't matter anyway. I'm in California so my vote is worthless. I may consider an independent if a better one runs but in the end…. :-)

          • Luis522 says:

            If a "no vote" helps BOzo, a 3p run would GUARANTEE it!

            ps: I heard that CA's min wage is climbing to 10.24/hr!
            If true, goodbye "Happy Meas", and dollar-stores!

            Goodbye, Charlie!

            • Azarlien says:

              Oh are they trying to raise that again? I quit listening to what Sacramento was doing a long time ago. They seem hell bent (regardless of party) to drive the state to complete ruin. The current moronic governor (sorry, no other way to describe him) is continually pounding more nails into small business.

              As for an independent party, I'm not so sure. A lot of people are not happy with Gingrich/Romney. Maybe it's time. Assuming there was a candidate I even remotely liked, and assuming that person ran as an Independent…. I'd probably go for it. I'm tired of the two-party system that is really just one party. Unless of course neither Gingrich or Romney get the nomination. I'd vote for anyone currently running over those two. (Except maybe Huntsman.)

              It is possible that would allow his Highness O back in but… at this point, given the behavior of some of the "conservatives"… I'm not really too sure we don't deserve Obama for another 4 years. Or 8 if he changes the law. :-D

              Though, I also believe that would devastate what's left of the country. I suppose if the American experiment is going to work we'll just have to see who wins. Unfortunately I'm not optimistic. Let's hope I'm totally wrong!!

              • Luis522 says:

                Think about it, Azarlien. In 2007, Hillary was pre-emminent. The highest position of the land was "hers" . . .until an unknown named Obama.

                BOzo took the MIGHTY Clinton-machine to the cleaners! $20M in debt! Did the Clintons defy the DNC, went the INDie/3p route, and took their 18m constituents w/ them?!
                NO!
                They stepped aside, and GAVE them to BOzo!

                2011
                Many are hinting that BOzo should now step aside for Hillary, because his numbers are tanking!

                They WON'T go 3p this time around either! You know why? Dems are antiAmerican and destructive — but, they are also strongly unified – come HELL or high water! THEY ARE NOT STUPID!

                They KNOW that a 3p would split the votes and cancel the Ds right out of the WH!

                THAT'S how and why we'll lose!

  245. IdahoAnnie says:

    debate discussion in chat room on the black bar above……………. come join us.

  246. Luis522 says:

    Federal judge: Iran shares responsibility for 9/11 terror attacks

    NEW YORK — In an historic hearing in the federal courthouse in Manhattan on Thursday, U.S. District Court Judge George Daniels said he planned to issue a ruling in the coming days declaring that Iran shares in the responsibility for the 9/11 terror attacks.

    “The extensive record submitted to this court, including fact witnesses and expert testimony, is satisfactory to this court,” Judge Daniels said. The court “accepts as true” the various allegations of the plaintiffs and their experts, he declared, and “will issue an order” in the coming days that Iran bears legal responsibility for
    providing “material support” to the 9/11 plotters and hijackers.

    Family members of 9/11 victims who attended the open-court hearing broke into tears. They had nervously sat through a four-hour presentation by attorneys Thomas E. Mellon, Jr., and Timothy B. Fleming, consisting of evidence backing up their claims that Iran had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks and actively assisted the hijackers in planning, preparing, and executing their plan.

    “My husband’s name is on that lawsuit,” said Fiona Havlish, the lead plaintiff in the case against Iran. Her spouse, Donald G. Havlish, Jr, perished on the 101st floor of the World Trade Center’s South Tower. “This is about my husband, all our husbands, our loved ones, our sons, our daughters.”

    Ellen Saracini, whose husband, Victor Saracini, took off that morning at the controls of United Airlines Flight 175, called it “a historic day” because a U.S. court found that Iran was responsible for the attacks. “When I heard the verdict, I just smiled up to Victor and said, ‘we’re still thinking about you up there.’”

    In presenting evidence gathered by the attorneys and their outside investigator, Timothy Fleming revealed tantalizing details of still-sealed videotaped depositions provided by three defectors from Iranian intelligence organizations.

    One of those defectors was “physically present” when al-Qaida’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came to Iran in May 2001 for four days of intense closed-door meetings with the top leadership in Iran to discuss the impending attacks.

    Another took part in writing up the debriefing reports of Iran’s al-Qaida liaison, Imad Mugniyeh, once he returned to Iran from Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks.

    The most dramatic moment of the hearing came when Fleming unveiled the identity of a third defector and described in detail the information he had provided.

    The defector, Abdolghassem Mesbahi, had been a confidant of Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Islamic Republic’s founder, and headed up European operations for the new regime’s fledging intelligence service in the early 1980s.

    Then, Mesbahi actively took part in developing a set of terrorist contingency plans, called “Shaitan der atash” — meaning “Satan in the Flames,” or “Satan on Fire” — to be used against the United States.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/16/federal-judge-i

  247. RageforOrder says:

    From section 1031
    1)COVERED PERSONS. A covered person under this section is any person as follows: (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including ANY person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. …….(this does include American citizens on US soil in my view)

    • RageforOrder says:

      What is constitutes a belligerent act?….It can be a very broad definition

    • RageforOrder says:

      Section 1032
      Excerpt -"The requirement to detain a person in military custody under THIS section does not extend to citizens of the United States."
      (This means ONLY section 1032 can't be applied to American citizens) 1031 DOES apply to American citizens.

  248. RageforOrder says:

    2)As for the ACLU….They are not always wrong but they definately lean left and of course they want to give their buddy Obama more power.

  249. RageforOrder says:

    3) only a few senators get it…..most of the others believe that American citizens are exempt……but a closer reading suggest that it is otherwise IMO.
    Other senators like McCain and Graham know what it really means….but that is what they want.

  250. RageforOrder says:

    4) It could be the same as 3)…..or something more nefarious.
    I used to listen to Rush,Hannity,and Beck on the way to work and back for years(I still do sometimes).I still follow Judge Nap ardently.
    Over the years,I have begun to distrust those talk show guys…..and more and more I doubt whether they truly have America's best interest at heart…….Judge Nap has never given me a reason to doubt him and has always been very consistent.

  251. Gary H says:

    I see the black SUV's rolled thru here.

  252. olnavyboy says:

    I just got the text on my phone: US Military says last US troops have left Iraq. -Fox News

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      watched them leave tonight…………. wonder how many of them will come home or shipped to somewhere else in the middle east?

    • gladimamerican says:

      Of course the boo is taking credit for the exit, even tho it was GW's plan and the Iraqi's wanted to see the back of us, after they rejected our demand of immunity for our people if we stayed. (Another boo failure, waiting so long to negotiate this point.) The Iraqi's are also ending NATO involvement by the end of the year. I hope this is the right time, the last thing we need is a repeat of what happened in Vietnam after we left. The whole middle east is a powder keg and we are leaving one hell of a vacuum to be filled.

      • topshot says:

        It is only a matter of time until history repeats itself, as I said in a piece on WUA this time it may involve the entire world in a nuclear war because of the arms race that will erupt in the Arab countries. Vietnam will seem as a bump in the road compared to the train wreck we are speeding towards. The Pretender in Chief has gotten what he was looking for, America out of the way so Iran can destabilize the entire Middle East and in the end the entire world. Will America see what this Socialist sitting in the White House really is and vote him out of office or will they give him the four more years he needs to complete the destruction of our country. To be honest, anymore I wonder. Semper Fi

  253. olnavyboy says:

    Kim Jong Il has died. Good riddance. I wonder how the KORCOMS will handle this dynastic succession to Kim Jong Un.

  254. Hobbes says:

    Who is Leo Gerard? And why should he be feared? http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/15/who-is-l

    And, there is more:
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/16/leo-gera

    • les_gvt says:

      It might also be worth noting that the president of the Michigan AFL-CIO was on the Board of Directors of the Chicago Branch. When Gaffneys term expired , he went onto the Detroit branch.

      Something about Obama, unions, and the Fed bother me, especially when many of the board members are involve with ACORN

  255. serf says:

    I do not trust government or politicians.. do you?

    • olnavyboy says:

      Who in their right mind does?

    • OldMarine says:

      Serf,I believe I even said that in the various posts on this subject. HOWEVER, the point that I'm attempting to make, is everyone is/was concentrating on section 1031, Yet section 1032 says that it does not apply to U.S. citizens. Now, people should ask why this is the focus? Now, they have amended the bill giving BH0 the authority to over ride what the military does with captured prisoners, now what's to prevent him from saying that all people captured on the field of battle will be brought to the U.S. to stand trial in a federal court. When this happens, I'm waiting for the outrage from the people of America. Semper Fi

  256. Luis522 says:

    AT&T / T-MOBILE: The BOzo smack Down. Here's The Motive

    ' “The actions by the Federal Communications Commission and the Department of Justice to block this transaction do not change the realities of the U.S. wireless industry,” the company said in a statement. “It is one of the most fiercely competitive industries in the world, with a mounting need for more spectrum that has not diminished and must be addressed immediately. The AT&T and T-Mobile USA combination would have offered an interim solution to this spectrum shortage.”

    AT&T claims the failure of the deal to go through will ultimately impact customers negatively: “Customers will be harmed and needed investment will be stifled,” the company said.

    Similarly, in August AT&T faced a stare-down from the Department of Justice, who filed a federal antitrust lawsuit against AT&T, stating that the merger would be bad for consumers as well as unnecessary for AT&T to further expand its wireless network.' (*1)

    ?!
    Did you catch that?! "[unnecessary] for AT&T to further expand its wireless network.'
    That's the Obama Administration's true mindset. BUT, what's the motive behind this particular, and CRIMINAL, action?! Here it is:

    A new company called "LightSquared" (*2)

    ' The liberal Daily Beast reports on a broadband project backed by a frequent Obama White House visitor and donor that has Pentagon officials concerned over potential military GPS interference. The Obama FCC took the lead in intervening on the donor, billionaire hedge fund manager Philip Falcone’s, behalf and granting his company called “LightSquared” one of those coveted Obama waivers from existing law. Then Obama officials reportedly pressured a general to alter his testimony about the company’s impact on military satellite transmissions.

    In a nutshell

    [T]he Pentagon has been raising concerns about a new wireless project by a satellite broadband company in Virginia called LightSquared, whose majority owner is an investment fund run by Democratic donor Philip Falcone. Gen. Shelton was originally scheduled to testify Aug. 3 to a House committee that the project would interfere with the military’s sensitive Global Positioning Satellite capabilities, which control automated driving directions and missile targeting, among other things.

    According to officials familiar with the situation, Shelton’s prepared testimony was leaked in advance to the company. And the White House asked the general to alter the testimony to add two points: that the general supported the White House policy to add more broadband for commercial use; and that the Pentagon would try to resolve the questions around LightSquared with testing in just 90 days. Shelton chafed at the intervention, which seemed to soften the Pentagon’s position and might be viewed as helping the company as it tries to get the project launched, the officials said.

    (Further down the article…)
    Goldman Sachs reportedly plans to pull its $120 million from Falcone’s fund (LightSpeed).'

    THE POT THICKENS

    Soros turns up in Obama’s LightSquared imbrogli
    ' As Republican lawmakers begin to dig into the White House’s cozy relationship with a startup wireless company and the wealthy Democratic donor who owns it, a new character has appeared on the story’s edges: liberal superdonor, conservative bete noire and controversial investor George Soros.

    Soros reportedly invested in the telecom company LightSquared through a hedge fund, and many of the nonprofits he finances have backed LightSquared in regulatory and policy disputes…' *3

    The CORRUPTION flies higher than any satellite!
    [THEY] decide who wins (Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan/Chase, BoAm, AIG, Fann/Fredd, Solyndra, GM, LighSpeed, Brazilian off-shore drilling, the unions, NPR…. ), and who loses ( ALL OF America's natural resource – Agriculture/farming-industry, manufacturing, NASA, Boeing, the Keystone Pipeline, pvt enterprise, small business, the American People, Prosperity, and our very LIBERTY; our Sovereignty)

    For years DC have been milking their IMMUNITY to INSIDER TRADING, for all i't's worth, at the expense of the TAXPAYERS, law abiding businesses, the economy, and our very stability, security, and sovereignty. All for the mighty $$$$!

    Don't kid yourself! The Obama Administration IS practicing Socialism!

    These bat-rastards don' give a DAMN about the "middle" or the "poor"t

    Sources:
    *1 http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/12/att-tmobil

    *2 http://michellemalkin.com/2011/09/15/lightsquared

    *3 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-and-soro

  257. serf says:

    I accept no excuses but there are too many laws that make it impossible to know all of them. we are closing in on a semi load of national securty laws and regulations that twist words and meaning to give permission to government for any action it takes. When I find it hard to sort out the truth then there is no truth to be found.

  258. RageforOrder says:

    Congratulations America: you are now in the triple digit "debt to GDP" http://t.co/kreFjP4c

  259. Luis522 says:

    Do you know what YEAR it is?!
    ' Q: Would you go to war with Iran if they developed nuclear weapons and threatened Israel?

    PAUL: "Well, one thing I would remember very clearly is the president doesn't have the authority to go to war. He goes to the Congress."

    (Typical politician. Deflects and dodges a question that would expose his TRUE ideology, and intentions. Like when Hannity asked Paul about his intentions on running under a 3rd party [3p] ticket. )

    Q: So what do you do?
    "I would say that we should go very cautiously. We should be talking to Iran right now. We shouldn't be looking for the opportunity to attack them. They are at the present time, according to the IAEA, cooperating. I think that we ought to be talking about how to get along with some people that are deadly, like the Soviets and the Chinese and the many others. We don't have to resort to war every single time there is a confrontation." ' (*1)

    THEY do!

    ' PAUL: You've heard the war propaganda that is liable to lead us into a sixth war. And I worry about that position. Iran is a threat because they have some militants there. But believe me, they're all around the world and they're not a whole lot different than others. Iran does not have an air force that can come here. They can't even make enough gasoline for themselves. And here we are building this case up, just like we did in Iraq–build up the war propaganda. There was no al Qaeda in Iraq.' (*2)

    RP really likes the term "propaganda", doesn't he?! Meanwhile, just days after US troops have left Iraq . . .

    Baghdad explosions kill at least 60 people
    ' BAGHDAD (AP) – A wave of at least 14 bombings ripped across Baghdad Thursday morning, killing at least 60 people in the worst violence Iraq has seen for months.' (*3)

    "I am suggesting very strongly that we should have a foreign policy of non intervention, the traditional American foreign policy, and the traditional republican foreign policy." – Ron Paul

    (sigh)
    I think somebody should inform RP that we don't live in the 18TH CENTURY anymore!

    Sources:
    *1 http://glassbooth.org/explore/index/ron-paul/12/i

    *2 http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Ron_Paul_War_+_Pea

    *3 http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/story/201

  260. serf says:

    Government cannot save you from the pain of life, but it can steal the joy from life and freedom.
    I do believe since our border has not been closed an attack on a school will happen. I am surprised it has not happened.
    The government to date has not stopped a terrorist act with all the laws it has created, but the American public has done their duty and alerted government to suspected activity.
    The patriot act has the term suspected terrorist in its language to allow the IRS to tear apart the life of that suspected terrorist even an American. There is no definition of suspected terrorist. When coupled with the ricco act and other law enforcement laws and these new laws no American is safe from tyranny. Since all laws are open to interpretation by the government and it takes the courts to stop unlawful government actions, we Americans could be in real trouble due to the pro government actions of the Supreme Court. .

  261. serf says:

    it seems we a agree, but I will take it one step more…we had enough laws before 2000 to handle terrorist activites if only the government want too.

  262. RageforOrder says:

    yes I have read it about 5 times……and it does exempt US citizens from section 1032.
    "The requirement to detain a person in military custody under THIS section does not extend to citizens of the United States."-1032
    If US citizens were exempt from 1031 it would have said so.It doesn't.
    If you don't believe me
    Here is what one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland." http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/600840428

  263. RageforOrder says:

    On Iraq: Think like Romans and admit we were beaten http://non-intervention.com/1012/on-iraq-think-li

  264. Luis522 says:

    BOEHNER'S GOTTA GO!!!
    He caved yet AGAIN! After all the tough-talk he melted — AGAIN! What deal did Boehner get in favor of people?! Nothing, AGAIN!

    The Ds had a vicious pitbull in Speaker Pelosi. What did We the People get? A WEEPING WILLOW for the pitbull to pee on!

    }:-[

  265. Luis522 says:

    I hope that you all have a Blessed Christmas holiday beside your loved ones.
    The miracle of Christmas can never be wrapped, nor will it ever be found, in a package.
    Christmas is a Promise that has been kept with the birth
    of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Promise is Salvation.

    Is there a more beautiful, or more meaningful, Gift than that?!

    Feliz Navidad! Que el nuevo ano nos acerca mas a nuestro Senior.
    (May the new year bring us closer
    to our Lord.)

    Luis

    • IdahoAnnie says:

      Merry Christmas Luis, and thank you for your heart felt words. Your message of the true meaning of Christmas is a great reminder of what Christmas is REALLY all about. God Bless.

  266. Goober says:

    Merry Christmas my fellow patriots and Wolverines. Prayin that we have a fruitful 2012! Keep up the good work. Enjoy the weekend with your families and friends.

  267. Gary H says:

    OK folks got my hat boots and all my reindeer.Loaded up and ready to deliver my load of toy to all the good boys and girls.But before I drive out of sight,MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT HO HO HO HO…….

  268. Hobbes says:

    "God Bless Us, Everyone!" Merry Christmas!

  269. ebarnes says:

    Merry Christmas to all. Have a wonderful Christmas and the best for the New Year. God Bless.

  270. IdahoAnnie says:

    To everyone I wish blessings in abundance and a new start that comes with a new year. Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year!

  271. RageforOrder says:

    In those two instances…..thats alright and they already have the authority to go get them in those situations…..the problem is that the language is too vague and can be construed to mean a variety of things.Our Congress has a track record of doing that quite often….and this bill gives them more opportunities to do that.Giving more power to the govt. does not make us safer…….in fact it is quite the opposite.

  272. IdahoAnnie says:

    You all will LOVE this one. Mike Kelly, a Chevy/Cadillac dealer in western PA…got himself elected to congress last term….listen to him take the entire congress to the "woodshed".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEArFmRDtrw

    • topshot says:

      Well my goodness!!! There IS someone sitting in Congress that speaks sense. What a breath of fresh air!!! The best thing that could ever happen is the enactment of term limits but of course the "Players" have it rigged so that will never happen. These Professional Politicians have it made, the get huge salaries for doing nothing but argue about petty things just so their names are in the headlines. After serving just (1) day in office they are guaranteed a huge retirement and medical benefits that you or I will never have and for what? To sit on their pompous ass's and do nothing except try to out score the other side with political points. I am sick of both Democrats AND Republicans. Ultimately their only consideration is for re-election and NOT the countries welfare. The Tea Parties were a great start but they have lost their steam because we have become complacent and willing to accept the status quot. Without a doubt history will show this next election will have been the most important election in American history and we are allowing the Main Stream Media to control Americas destiny. When out grandchildren ask us what did we do to save the country I fear there will be nothing but silence from our mouths. Will our generation go down in history as the one who stood by as America was destroyed? We had better make our minds now because time is rapidly running out. My hat is off to Mike Kelly, he is a throwback to what our founding fathers would have sounded like. Thanks Annie for the chance to hear a REAL American.

      Semper Fi

    • Hobbes says:

      Ah, one of the "upstarts" that are new to Congress that we've being hearing so many complaints about. Real "troublemakers" aren't they? I sure wish we had more like him!

      • topshot says:

        It would be a nice change now wouldn't it Hobbes. The best way to ensure more people like him is to get involved in your local elections. The school board member of today just may be the Congressman of tomorrow.

  273. ebarnes says:

    After reading this from infowars, can we really have another 4 years of Obama?
    http://www.infowars.com/unrelenting-global-econom

    I know we can't afford 4 more years of his administration and their policies.

  274. Luis522 says:

    It's no secret that America, and the very torch of LIBERTY, is dimming. This isn't the fault of any individual, or specific political party. It's ALL of our faults! If we're going to point the finger, then, point towards the mirror!

    The root-problem is "man", or the population, in general. The evidence is everywhere in the world. We have become three of the worst things we could've ever become:

    1. An ENTITLEMENT society that is strategically/intentionally maintained by FORCING the population to completely depend on the so called "compassion" of the government, creating division, jealousy, and envy. Society gets easily provoked, and incites violence if threatened with losing the very "drug" (entitlements/benefits) that they have been provided — or "hooked on".

    In that sense, "VOTER FRAUD" has been going on for over 3/4 century.

    2. We have absolutely become an INSTANT GRATIFICATION society. So ingrained is the NEED for goods and/or services to be readily accessible and available that REAL REFORM and RESTORATION has been made impossible to achieve.

    We INSIST and DEMAND "change" from our government, our reps at all levels. BUT, what are WE willing to "change" in, and about, OUR OWN lives to set the example?! What are WE willing to SACRIFICE to be able to RESTORE our Republic, our very Sovereignty and Liberty, – if anything at all?!

    3. The THINGS that the population has TRULY SACRIFICED is their own identity and character; their self-worth, -reliance, and resourcefulness. Man has sacrificed personal accountability; respect for ourselves, people's faith/beliefs, and respect for others – including property.

    We CAN NOT "change" cancer. We are only SLOWING DOWN its growth! We have to ALL STOP LIVING IN DENIAL and REMOVE the cancer to save the life that is the American Republic.

    What are those that claim to "love America" – its values and principles really WILLING to SACRIFICE?!

    Luis

  275. Hobbes says:

    Rush Limbaugh awhile ago said there would be a push to discourage us with fake poll numbers. It looks like he and Ulsterman's WHITE HOUSE INSIDER agree…..
    http://theulstermanreport.com/2011/12/26/white-ho

  276. RageforOrder says:

    agreed.And there is a Thomas Jefferson out there……The media is doing all they can to destroy him

  277. RageforOrder says:

    Obama to ask for debt limit hike: Treasury official http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/27/us-usa-

  278. Luis522 says:

    Ex-Aide to Ron Paul Makes Stunning Claims About Old Boss: Anti-Israel, 9/11 Truther, Doesn’t Believe U.S. Had Any Business Fighting Hitler

    ' Eric Dondero, who worked for Ron Paul on and off for a total of 12 years dating back to 1987, released a jaw-dropping statement in Right Wing News Monday in regards to his old boss. It appears Dondero wrote the statement to answer questions presented to him of late by various media outlets in regards to controversial newsletters connected to the congressman that have consumed his campaign for President. While attempting to defend Paul as not being a “racist” or “homophobic,” as many have accused him of being given the hateful language in the newsletters, Dondero “sets the record straight” by making shocking claims about the beliefs and behind-closed-doors statements of the man vying to be Commander in Chief. The Paul campaign has already reacted to Dondero’s claims, labeling him as a disgruntled ex-employee. Nonetheless, the allegations are astounding.

    Dondero begins by strongly refuting claims that Paul is a “racist,” saying he never heard Paul make any racist comments in the 12 years he worked for the man, and makes clear that the congressman has frequently hired blacks and Hispanics for his office staff. However, Dondero makes “one caveat,“ stating that Paul is ”out of touch,” with both Hispanic and Black culture:

    “He is completely clueless when it comes to Hispanic and Black culture, particularly Mexican-American culture. And he is most certainly intolerant of Spanish and those who speak strictly Spanish in his presence, (as are a number of Americans, nothing out of the ordinary here.)”

    Dondero, who is half-Jewish himself, says Paul is not Anti-Semitic. He says Paul has no issue with Jewish-Americans and can “categorically” say that he has never heard anything Anti-Semitic, slurs or any sort of derogatory marks come out of Paul’s mouth. However, Dondero claims Paul is “most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general:”

    “He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.”

    Based on countless “arguments/discussions” with Paul over the years, Dondero claims that no matter how hard the candidate denies it “Ron Paul is most assuredly an isolationist.”

    “For example, he strenuously does not believe the United States had any business getting involved in fighting Hitler in WWII. He expressed to me countless times, that ‘saving the Jews,’ was absolutely none of our business. When pressed, he often times brings up conspiracy theories like FDR knew about the attacks of Pearl Harbor weeks before hand, or that WWII was just ‘blowback,’ for Woodrow Wilson’s foreign policy errors, and such. ”

    Moving to more contemporary subjects, Dondero states “with absolute certainty” that Paul was opposed to the War in Afghanistan and to any military reaction to the 9/11 attacks.

    “He immediately stated to us staffers, me in particular, that Bush/Cheney were going to use the attacks as a precursor for ‘invading’ Iraq. He engaged in conspiracy theories including perhaps the attacks were coordinated with the CIA, and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time. He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11, and pretty much forbade us staffers from engaging in any sort of memorial expressions, or openly asserting pro-military statements in support of the Bush administration.”

    Dondero claims that Paul, up to the eve of the resolution vote, was telling staffers that he planned to vote “No” on a resolution initiating the War in Afghanistan. Dondero claims that all of the congressman’s district staff told his Chief of Staff that they would immediately resign if Ron voted “No.”

    “At the very last minute Ron switched his stance and voted ‘Yay,’ much to the great relief of Jackie and I. He never explained why, but I strongly suspected that he realized it would have been political suicide; that staunchly conservative Victoria would revolt, and the Republicans there would ensure that he would not receive the nomination for the seat in 2002.” '
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-aide-to-ron-pa

    Paull says that Israel "shouldn't EXIST"?! That he's "out of touch" and "intolerant" when it comes to blacks and hispanics?! That he's not "anti-semitic" – just "anti-Israel in general"?!
    Sounds racist to me.

    "He expressed no sympathies whatsoever for those who died on 9/11"! And we should NOT have "any business" fighting sHITLER?!

    That makes Ron Paul a VERY DANGEROUS man. Vote for him?! Never ever!

    • Luis522 says:

      Rest of article…

      ' The claims come just over a week before the start of Republican primary voting.

      Eric Dondero was a Senior Aide to Congressman Paul from 1997-2003, Ron Paul for Congress Campaign Coordinator from 1995-1996, National Organizer for Draft Ron Paul for President from 1991-1992, and a personal assistant for Ron, Libertarian for President from 1987-1988. That said, Dondero’s claims should be taken with a grain of salt.

      Paul campaign manager Jesse Benton emailed The Weekly Standard Sunday afternoon in regards to Dondero’s latest statement:

      “Eric Dondero is a disgruntled former staffer who was fired for performance issues. He has zero credibility and should not be taken seriously.”

      A Facebook group was created during the 2008 campaign, titled “Eric Dondero is Slime!” making similar allegations to Benton, that Dondero is a disgruntled former employee attempting to enact an unjust revenge on his former boss.

      Dondero disputes he was fired, telling CBS News he resigned in 2003 after going “back and forth” with Paul for months. Dondero even challenged Paul for his congressional seat in 2007.'

      So, if none of this true, then RP should sue Dondero. IF it's not true.

    • RageforOrder says:

      Why the establishment really fears Ron Paul http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/27/why-the-establi

    • RageforOrder says:

      Israeli paper: Ron Paul is not anti-Israel – Interviews former foreign policy advicer & Israeli Dr. Leon Hadar http://www.haaretz.com/news/u-s-elections-2012/u-

  279. RageforOrder says:

    The system is rigged against the few good people that are still here.There is shortage of independent thinking thats for sure….I used to take the talk show hosts words as gospel,not anymore though.I disagree with them more every day,and I am sick of being used.Once people step out and think for themselves,solutions will arise.We will probably have to go through a rough time first.__and…..I know there is a modern day Thomas Jefferson,for I have seen him.But again there is so much for him to overcome in order to ever be in a position of power that could actually change this country for the better.

  280. Luis522 says:

    (Scenario)

    Ron Paul goes on stage for his acceptance speech. They're playing his campaign theme song in the background. I can hear it now…

    "Hey Jude don't be afraid
    You were made to go out and get her
    The minute you let her under your skin
    Then you begin to make it better" (*2)

    Ron Paul favors legalizing heroin…

    ' [Ron] Paul was the only candidate at the debate to make news, calling for the repeal of laws against prostitution, cocaine and heroin. The freedom to use drugs, he argued, is equivalent to the freedom of people to “practice their religion and say their prayers.” Liberty must be defended “across the board.” “It is amazing that we want freedom to pick our future in a spiritual way,” he said, “but not when it comes to our personal habits.”

    Even by this permissive standard, drug legalization fails. The de facto decriminalization of drugs in some neighborhoods — say, in Washington, D.C. — has encouraged widespread addiction. Children, freed from the care of their addicted parents, have the liberty to play in parks decorated by used needles. Addicts are liberated into lives of prostitution and homelessness.

    But Paul had an answer to this criticism. “How many people here would use heroin if it were legal? I bet nobody would,”
    In determining who is a “major” candidate for president, let's begin here. Those who support the legalization of heroin while mocking addicts are marginal. It is difficult to be a first-tier candidate while holding second-rate values. (*1)

    Well, there it is. The "Ron Paul Plan":

    " If I'm potus, you'll forget about the "boogeyman" if you just SHOOT UP! Enjoy life – pain free! Nobody will even want to be our enemy! It was all a lie to begin with! Pearl Harbor… September Eleventh… Our own government, did it all! We need an "enemy"! Hitler?! NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!!! Those muslims! WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE!!! Israel?! Again, Hitler was taking care of things — until FDR and Churchill INTERFERED!

    NO MORE!!! I'LL take care of it! I gotchu! I'm going to bring ALL of our military back home — PERMANTLY! You'll see! I'll legalize drugs! We'll buy the Heroin from Afghanistan, and Pakistan! That'll open a new trade agreement with them! We'll leave the peaceful leaders to develop nuclear "energy". They don't want a "bomb"! What can they do with just one bomb?! They're not SUICIDAL!

    Besides, what threat would WE be if America's high-as-a-kite?!"

    *1 condensed from: http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/columnists/ar

    *2 "Hey Jude" – The Beatles (1965)

    • stang289 says:

      How you doing Luis ? Good to see ya ,

      • Luis522 says:

        Hey, stang! It's been a long time. I hope you, and your loved ones, a safe and better year. I hope the same for everyone else here, at "Speak Out", as well.
        God Bless :-)

    • RageforOrder says:

      What do you got against Ron Paul?…..Most of his positions including the one on drugs comes from our Constitution.Like most things,it should be a state issue.
      "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." 10th admendment

  281. ebarnes says:

    We can only hope that she really does want to retire……..
    http://biggovernment.com/jsshapiro/2011/12/29/exc

    • Hobbes says:

      I'd make a comment, but, the comments on Big Government pretty much says it all … Ha, ha!

      • topshot says:

        Next year there is going to be a big push to "Keep America Beautiful" so the Wicked Witch of the West has to hide her face.

        • gladimamerican says:

          Wouldn't all her botox injections make her toxic waste? I say she better hide her whole self before the EPA catches her.

        • olnavyboy says:

          Top, that "woman" is so ugly Medusa is afraid to look at her. And if she's so ethical, why won't she answer any questions about her financial dealings, and that of her husbands? It seems like he got some nice sweetheart deals.

    • Azarlien says:

      I love how she threw her daughter under the bus on that. Got to love these people…. ;-)

  282. RageforOrder says:

    "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." 10th admendment
    Seems pretty clear to me

    • gladimamerican says:

      Yeah, but you have a small thing called common sense. Sorry to say, that is sadly lacking in DC. Remember the liar-in-chief is a constitutional lawyer, meaning he studied it so he could work out the best way to circumvent it

    • Goober says:

      Here here… too bad that it does not resonate so clearly in the minds of our representatives! 2012… a change WE CAN believe in!

  283. RageforOrder says:

    well I am rather young (just 22) and am still figuring it all out.What brought me to question my beliefs of the past was good people like yourself on the old 912 GB project._As for America,it is follow the same cycle as empires before her._"From bondage to spiritual faith._From spiritual faith to great courage._From courage to liberty._From liberty to abundance._From abundance to selfishness._From selfishness to complacency._From complacency to apathy._From apathy to dependency._From dependency back again into bondage."_–Sir Alex Fraser Tyler,

  284. RageforOrder says:

    There can be a rebirth in this nation……just like the renaissance of the past or the renewals that happened in the Roman Empire.I am not going to tell you who this Thomas Jefferson is.But I will tell you he is the most principled man I have seen in gov. He doesn't change with the political whirlwinds.He is consistent in his beliefs fro they are guided by God,the Constitution and the advice of the Founders.America will receive its wakeup call soon enough……I am not sure what they will do with it though……Even though I have been pessimistic for the longest time……certain things have happened that give me a glimmer of hope

  285. sicofit says: